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Ziggy Stardust

I believe I cited a reliable source calling David Bowie's: The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars an Art Rock album but I do not know if was done correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki Factualizor (talk • contribs) 03:34, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Live at Leeds

Sorry for that, wasn't trying to start a genre war, just thought it'd be better to have hard rock than just "rock" (which could be anything from rockabilly to post-punk), and allmusic lists the album under hard rock , as well as listing the band as one of the top hard rock artists . Is there any other source required? --190.157.154.245 (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm personally loath to use Allmusic since no one has yet been able to show me why it's a reliable source, but if you must, no one will have good cause to revert you. Just copy and paste this code after the genre in the infobox: <ref>http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-at-leeds-r443429/review</ref>

Radiopathy •talk• 04:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Queen albums

Hi Radiopathy..what you did with A Night at the Opera (Filling in references using Reflinks)... could you do the same to...A Day at the Races, Sheer Heart Attack, News of the World, Queen, Queen II, Hot Space, Made in Heaven, A Kind of Magic, The Game, (Jazz, The Works these have bare links also) and Live Killers. User Koavf placed a barelinks tag on those albums and it would be great if you could fill in the references using reflinks. Cheers.-Queen Zeppelin Metallica Floyd (talk) 23:47, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, "this user loves to munch on large elephant's ears, because he is a screw-up, and north america is a continent, and other places, such as some countries do not use British English" read like vandalism to me. Apologies if it wasn't. 79.97.144.17 (talk) 05:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC) It's pretty much explained as well as it possibly could be in the edit summary. 79.97.144.17 (talk) 05:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Album credits

Please see WP:ALBUM Re: these edits, when giving a track listing, the first and last names of the songwriters are to be listed in the first instance, followed by only the last name on subsequent listings (unless there is potential confusion.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Also When you removed {{Cleanup-linkrot}} from Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, it still contained several bare links and I have since re-added the template, as at least one of them still exists. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:34, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Common name

Greetings - I've seen your comments at the two current Beatles move requests. I was wondering if you've read the WP:COMMONNAME section of the article-titling policy? If so, don't you think that it applies pretty clearly to both cases? Thanks for taking a look. Dohn joe (talk) 02:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Genre warrior

I've slapped the cuffs on for the usual 24 hours. However, if this person can use multiple IPs we need to consider a rangeblock. Do you know of any other ones they've used? Daniel Case (talk) 17:00, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Not yet, but it'll be obvious if they start the same editing pattern with a different IP. I'll keep an eye. Radiopathy •talk•

Prenigmamann

He asked for some clarification as to what he was doing wrong. Per AGF, I explained it. Let's see what happens now. Daniel Case (talk) 01:54, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

My power was out because of the storm when your message came. Sorry about that. I see it has been dealt with. Daniel Case (talk) 04:23, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

She Loves You

Hi Radiopathy,

I'm curious about your removal of my edit here. I appreciate your policing of the articles, and I suspect we're talking fan to fan here. As such, I promise there is no mischief going on.

The article says that the lyrics are unusual in being "in the third person". In fact they are unusual for being in the second person: :"YOU think you've lost YOUR love." I corrected this, and linked to the article explaining second-person narration. I think you've reinstated the mistake.

(Third person lyrics would be "He thinks he's lost his love, but I saw her yesterday. It's him she's thinking of, and she told me what to say. She said she loves him", etc. Something for a future Anthology, I guess....)

Best wishes,

MeejaIreland (talk) 07:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC) MeejaIreland

Canvassing

Canvassing is when you notify someone that you know or expect is likely to be on your side, when that person is not yet aware of the discussion. I, on the other hand, have simply asked you and two other editors who were already involved in the Talk:The Beatles (album) discussion to explore your reasoning, so that I can better understand where you're coming from. They are individual discussions, which are perfectly appropriate to keep from cluttering up what is already a very cluttered talkpage. It's been my experience that sometimes it's easier to have a reasonable discussion with someone when it's done outside the din of talkpage shout matches. I'd still love to have one with you if you're open to it. Dohn joe (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

It's called "campaigning", and it goes to AN/I next time, and I'm not joking. Radiopathy •talk• 17:39, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Here's what WP says about campaigning: "Campaigning is an attempt to sway the person reading the message, conveyed through the use of tone, wording, or intent. While this may be appropriate as part of a specific individual discussion, it is inappropriate to canvass with such messages."

Again - canvassing is when you approach someone about a discussion which they were not aware of, which I have not done. Dohn joe (talk) 17:45, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

All Things Must Pass

You completely misunderstand the situation: I don't have a preferred version. The discussion at WT:ALBUM can never be ‘in my favour’ as I have no POV. I just follow the guidelines, and at the moment, that is clearly that lists must not be included. If you or anyone else wants to change the guideline—perhaps define some lists which are exempt from the ban—that's fine by me. In the mean time, WP goes on; to suggest that editing per current policy/guidelines should stop just because someone has raised a question about a current guideline is quite ridiculous. Uniplex (talk) 07:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

You keep making bizarre statements: “your argument isn't gaining any traction”, after three people had agreed that the guideline should be changed, and a proposal was made to change it! Uniplex (talk) 05:20, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Lennon/McCartney or Lennon–McCartney

There is a discussion here where we could use your input. Thanks. CuriousEric 00:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

"Free as a Bird" proposed lede change

FYI, there is a vote taking place here and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc (talk) 03:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you!

For cleaning up the mess I made at the interpretation section of I Am the Walrus. I wasn't at my grammatical best when I made those edits. I really do appreciate it. :) Evanh2008, Super Genius Who am I? You can talk to me... 10:34, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Beatles songs

I've brought up the Beatles songs copyright question at WP:ANI. Recommend getting a ruling there before doing any more reverting of those IP's. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 01:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm willing to simply not revert, but it appears from the discussion, some twelve hours after you posted here, that those IPs have been a problem and that what they're doing is definitely copyvio. Radiopathy •talk• 00:50, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes. It may be that the spammer is sincere in his thinking that it's somehow OK, but it's still not OK. The articles have been semi'd and the IP-hopping user has drawn further attention to himself and his activities. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:54, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

albums produced by Jack Douglas

all of John Lennon's greatest hits compilations (except for Shaved Fish) have the category of "albums produced by Jack Douglas" on them. Of course, he only produced the 1980 tracks, and no other producer is mentioned (including Lennon himself). I don't think anyone should be credited as producer of a compilation, but this is a credit that's just wrong. What do you think? Hotcop2 (talk) 17:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't have albums handy at the moment; are there producer credits on any of the compilations? If so, I'd say change the producer for any albums that do, but maybe best to contact some other Beatles article 'regulars' and see if we can get some kind of consensus before we start removing Douglas en masse. Radiopathy •talk• 00:47, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Till There Was You

Evidently you've never actually heard the Beatles rendition of the song. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 03:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Just to be sure I wasn't the only one hearing this, I googled and found many references from a number of years ago. I recall when it first came out, when I was a teen, we used to snicker about the "sore" thing, since it sounded so weird to American ears... as with the line from "I Should Have Known Better" where the guys keep singing, "Give me Moe!" ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 03:52, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

'Sar'. I sar a film today, oh boy. Radiopathy •talk• 21:17, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Excellent. I had forgotten about that one. The right way to spell it, really, would be 'sawr'. The thing that's odd is saying 'sawr them'. I can understand 'sawr a', that's kind of normal for non-rhotics. But what's with the 'sawr' in front of a consonant??? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

A Liverpool thing? Like the 'intrusive R' in London: Chiner, Ameriker, Barack Obamer, etc. (with 'Barack' pronounced exactly as it's spelt - ba-RAK)

The r at the start of a syllable is enunciated, it's the trailing r that's rounded off, and then added when there isn't one... as with your examples, and with "I sawr a film". Looks like I need to study more about the Liverpudlian speech pattern. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Live at Leeds

I understand your concern, however the link has been checked out - see the discussion here. WP:ELYES#2 encourages a link to a copy of the work in question, provided such a link leads to a responsible and legal site, which this one is - the site is owned by the Romanian government. There is no copyright violation, as the website is licensed to stream in certain countries. The music cannot be copied or downloaded. Sometimes when you are not sure about a link, you can check the archives of Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions, or clarify the situation with the person who entered it. SilkTork 17:21, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you for catching that grossly BLP violating comment the IP editor added when it was blatantly obvious that it did not exisist. Hasteur (talk) 22:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Robin Gibb

Hi - I undid your revert of my edit in the first paragraph of Robin Gibb. I think you misread the hidden note in Bee Gees - I wrote that note, actually, quite some time ago and the point of it was that we had edit warring going on regarding the Gibbs' nationality, with people fighting to call them Manx or British or English or Australian - so we settled on not characterizing their nationality in the first sentence and rather spelling out that they were born of English parents on the Isle of Man, spent a few years in Manchester, then emigrated to Australia, eventually returning to England where they had their major success. Doing this effectively ended the edit wars, and the text has held since then. The logic of extending this to the 3 individual bios as well seems sound. Cheers Tvoz/talk 03:52, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry; I misread the dif. Radiopathy •talk• 16:15, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

No problem - that's what I figured. Tvoz/talk 21:48, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Metal Box

Hey, just wanna know why you removed the genre Experimental Rock from the infobox of Metal Box by Public Image Ltd. I mean, it's clearly an experimental rock album and the article itself mentions it in the first paragraph. Any reason? Cheers~ Smurfandbuffalo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smurfandbuffalo (talk • contribs) 13:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Surely: genre changes/additions have to be backed up by reliable sources; when they're not, and when there's no discussion, they're reverted. Cheers. Radiopathy •talk• 00:49, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

FYI

I've reverted genre troll account Jamcad01 on the Van Halen article for today. Experience tells me that he will return... either under the current account , an IP.. or a separate similar account... trying to re-add the false info to that article. Cheers and take care. Mr Pyles (talk) 23:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

You can start putting templates on his talk page: {{uw-genre1|Van Halen}}, genre2, etc., up to a level four warning, and then take it to WP:AIV for genre warring if he persists. Cheers. Radiopathy •talk• 23:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

It may come to that. I reverted one of his edits which seemed to defy previous discussion and consensus and he accused me of stalking him. I really don't think he is playing with a full deck (when it comes to fanboys on Misplaced Pages most of them don't). I can't solo revert him and boilerplate msg him over content without dragging myself down that slippery 'content dispute' vs 'POV vandalism' slope. but will be diligent that he does comply with pages that I know a concrete consensus has been reached. Thanks for all your help. Happy New Year! Mr Pyles (talk) 00:36, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

He's on the slippery slope already: he called one of your reverts 'vandalism' and I brought it up on his talk page. I'll keep an eye out. Radiopathy •talk• 00:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Sheesh. First of all, if you guys read the talk page you will see that the genre was originally in the info box when the hidden text was up there. Someone removed it though and it was never added back in however. I will stop adding it for now but it should still be up there. Second, It is not false info and the fact that you think so is WP:OR. Here are some sources to support my case: "Sam Dunn, Metal : A Headbanger's Journey, Sam Dunn, 2005," "http://allmusic.com/artist/van-halen-p133911/biography," (Pop Metal is synonymous with glam metal), "http://www.guitarworld.com/top_20_hair_metal_albums_of_the_eighties?page=0%2C0" (Hair metal is also synonymous with glam metal). Also I said my revert was vandalism because he was removing text within hidden text. Radiopathy: You might want to read this This editor is constantly wikistalking, insulting, holding a grudge against me and treating me unfairly. --Jamcad01 (talk) 08:08, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

I thought I read somehwere recently about someone promising to not use the anti-vandalism tool Twinkle to undo another editor's work that was clearly not vandalism. And yet someone recently did, in fact, use Twinkle to do the very thing that was promised to an admin to not do anymore. I believe the admin closing the discussion on the Twinkle misuse actually went ahead and closed the discussion based on the promise to not revert edits that weren't vandalism using Twinkle. Perhaps if that admin knew that the bad habit was not yet exorcised (especially when the accompanying edit summery uses rude SHOUTING cap lock'd text) that admin might be a little more prone to issuing a block to, perhaps, make the promise stick. Happy New Year. Mr Pyles (talk) 08:05, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

First of all, Radiopathy shouted at me first. Second, I did not label it vandalism I simply reverted it. --Jamcad01 (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I said I wouldn't label stuff vandalism anymore, I did NOT say I wouldn't use twinkle anymore and the admin. said that the issue was resolved and that I would agree to refrain from the use of the term vandalism. Also can you guys please stop ganging up on me. Thanks. --Jamcad01 (talk) 08:21, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Questions

1. Do you like to treat the articles on your watchlist as if they were yours? I mean, not letting IPs edit them? 2. Do you like to not obey this encyclopedia's rules when you revert an edition based on your point of view? Thanks, 177.19.95.239 (talk) 08:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Had I included an edit summary, speaking of Misplaced Pages's "rules", I would have said, "How can reviews be mixed as well as positive? If they're mixed, obviously some of them are positive, while others are not necessarily so". I reverted to what I thought was the most logical, neutral wording. Cheers. Radiopathy •talk• 01:14, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, Pathy. I think you are a good contributor. So, can you please change a thing at the introduction of this article (Let It Be)? The line says: "having received a largely negative review", but the review was mixed, and the "reception" section confirms this. Can you please adjust this information? Thanks. 177.19.95.239 (talk) 02:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Good Morning Good Morning

What do you mean, "youtube is not A reliable source"? That's the actual ad! What more reliable source could there possibly be? I don't want to get into an edit war, so I'll just delete the current incorrect lyrics as unsourced, but this is exactly the kind of absurd pickiness that makes me spend less and less time editing Misplaced Pages. Congratulations, you have helped make Misplaced Pages a less informative place. (Seriously, do you expect there to be an Encyclopedia of Ad Lyrics that can be authoritatively cited?) Languagehat (talk) 13:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

You can't add a link to a YouTube vid in most cases, per WP:ELNEVER. The other issue is that I believe that the commercial that inspired 'Good Morning, Good Morning' was a British commercial, given the term 'Sunshine Breakfast'; however, I do not have a reliable source for this, so it's best that the lyrics stay out of the article. Cheers. Radiopathy •talk• 22:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Per your reversion on Band On The Run

I didn't make the revision you reverted, but I should point out that the review did include the text as quoted. I know because I checked. Unfortunately, the posted review on the Rolling Stone web-site is truncated from the original published review. See Talk:Band On The Run.

-- J. Wong (talk) 22:57, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

All My Loving

You may want to contribute to a discussion on this article's talk page - your views, either way, would be appreciated.--Patthedog (talk) 08:38, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Requests for comment/Uncivil

Hello Radiopathy. On 30 July 2010 you left a message on a Talk page asking a User to behave in a more civil manner. See your diff

Unfortunately, that User has not taken adequate notice of your advice, and has continued to taunt others, including newbies, with uncivil comments. For example, see this diff.

In recent times there have been more messages on this User's Talk page, and a couple of approaches to Wikiquette Assistance, and finally Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/DocKino. In this RfC, you are mentioned by name, and your message from 30 July 2010 is among those cited as evidence of other Users having tried unsuccessfully to influence this User's behaviour. If you agree, you are entitled to endorse this RfC as a User who has tried to solve the problem. Regards. Dolphin (t) 01:53, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello again Radiopathy. Thank you for reading my message, and for responding by posting your views on the RfC. You began your post by writing I have been asked to endorse this RFC ... You will be aware that attempting to recruit Users to support, or not support, a particular cause is not permitted on Misplaced Pages. Consequently, I took great care to word my message so that it presented the essential facts but was neutral on the matter of whether you should, or shouldn't, endorse the RfC. I don't believe it was me who asked you to endorse the RfC. I'm pleased you took an independent viewpoint and wrote truthfully about the breadth of your experiences with DK. Dolphin (t) 07:35, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for adjusting your statement. Dolphin (t) 22:26, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Date corrections

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She Came In Through the Bathroom Window

Hi Radiopathy, why exactly did you move the article back? --Saethwr (talk) 04:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

See the discussion. Radiopathy •talk• 17:34, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I did. That was why I moved it in the first place. In this case, “in” is an adverb (not a preposition) and should therefore be capitalised. --Saethwr (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Queen

You've been watching this article for vandalism etc. Keep an eye on a user inserting the category LGBT-themed musical groups.--Chie one (talk) 11:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Article restructuring at the Beatles

There is a discussion taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc (talk) 03:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

There is a straw poll taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc (talk) 02:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

WP:AN post

See here Not sure if this is a big deal, sorry if I'm being a nuisance. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm wondering why you felt the need to get involved. Radiopathy •talk• 23:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Old Brown Shoe

You are wrong in saying that my information is incorrect or uncited. You will notice that the citation that pre-exists for the personnel of the recording cites Ian MacDonald's Revolution On The Head p. 347. If you look at page 347, you will see that is says that Paul McCartney plays bass on the track. I'm well aware that the article mentions that George claims to have played bass, but if that section cites Revolution On The Head, then I am correct in editing it to reflect what the source says. If you want to attach a footnote that reiterates George's claim to have performed the part, that is fine, but I simply corrected the information in the article to reflect the citation already used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derekgbolton (talk • contribs) 06:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

WP:POINT discussion

There is a discussion going on with regards to changes made to WP:POINT.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 16:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

David Gilmour

Hi Radiopathy, you reverted my editing of a Gilmour qoute on his article. There is only one working link for this and its in Italian. The bing translation doesnt contain the qoute, I was going to search for it when I had more time but in the mean time I just adjusted it for British English. Murry1975 (talk) 19:27, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Hitchcock

Not a Hitchcock fan, eh? Otherwise you'd have known that he is well-known for his cameo appearances, as described later in the article. Since the lead is supposed to summarize the article, it should not be removed from the lead. We even have an article List of Hitchcock cameo appearances. Yworo (talk) 22:53, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Responded to your post at AN

Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive233#IP hopping through an entire range. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:50, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

March 2012

Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Misplaced Pages. However, this is an encyclopedia and the articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits, as you did to ]. Readers looking for accurate information will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, try the sandbox, where you can write practically anything you want. Stop these please. does not suit you mate. we are led zeppelin fans!!!! C'mon. and this is a warning as well. HasperHunter (talk) 01:42, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

JDDJS (talk) 01:23, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Instead of using you time and intelligence wisely...

Perhaps you could explain why you keep changing the plural "are" to the singular "is". A source which explains that is the correct thing to do would be helpful. I should not that American_and_British_English_differences#Formal_and_notional_agreement states "Proper nouns that are plural in form take a plural verb in both AmE and BrE; for example, The Beatles are a well-known band; The Saints are the champions," I can also point you to This source which states " Generally, band names and musical groups take singular or plural verbs depending on the form of their names: "The Mamas and the Papas were one of the best groups of the 70s" and "Metallica is my favorite band."" and This source quotes William Safire in stating "In a rare dictum-making mood, William Safire (in No Uncertain Terms, 2003) declares that pluralized names like Packers and Yankees should take plural verbs (obviously), but that team names like the Jazz, the Heat, the Lightning, the Connecticut Sun should take singular verbs." The AP stylebook states unambiguously here "AP Stylebook entry on "collective nouns" says band names take plural verbs. The Fantastic Shakers have won many awards ". This source states "16.Titles of books, companies, name brands, and groups are singular or plural depending on their meaning." and uses the example "The Rolling Stones are..." This source says "Follow the rules of subject-verb agreement when using the proper names of athletic teams and musical bands or groups: The Seattle Mariners are on the road. The Seattle Storm is an event sponsor. The Beatles were wonderful at the old Seattle Center Coliseum and so were the Rolling Stones. The Who is still terrific." Furthermore, where style guides or usage disagree, they all seem to disagree with assuming that a musical group is plural in all cases. This source notes that both Rolling Stone and Sports Illustrated treat all musical groups and sports teams (respectively) as taking plural verb forms; that same source also notes that William Safire and the AP style guide both recommend that band names and sports teams have strict agreement with the name itself. I can find no source which indicates that "The Red Hot Chili Peppers is" as being a preferred form. If you could provide some sources which state that, unambiguously, it would help defend your position on this. --Jayron32 03:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

For all your hard work, you still can't disguise your basic ignorance of the language. Move along. Radiopathy •talk• 20:58, 16 March 2012 (UTC)