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Revision as of 06:14, 29 July 2011

Wikideparture, for now, anyway Dear all-- After much consideration, I've come to the reluctant conclusion that Misplaced Pages doesn't seem to be for me. I respect the efforts that others make here, and admire the project hugely, but I've simply found the learning curve to be too steep and (despite many lovely people) the environment too toxic. I have a thick-ish skin as Internet communities go, but I've been surprised by the number of insults becoming involved in any Wikiproject or discussion seems to inevitably entail. I was encouraged to post to DYK, only to discover that a vocal and insistent minority of admins deride all new article creation as a waste of time at best and an embarrassment to the encyclopedia at worst (even a Wikimedia Foundation employee posted last week to say this!); I was encouraged to upload photographs to articles I created, only to discover that even the editors checking image copyrights are unclear on the policies themselves, requiring constant arguments and appeals over each image; I was encouraged to post articles at GAN, only to be met with 4+ months of silence as that project works through its insurmountable backlog. Perhaps the last straw for me has been the admin and leading Misplaced Pages contributor who's spent the past week insisting at DYK that every editor who tries to contribute there is too shameless, indecent, and stupid to be allowed to edit an encyclopedia ; so far as I've seen, these insults have not only not been censured, but actively defended by several other respected editors. Why volunteer our time in the face of this kind of abuse, and why sink time into a project that can't even make up its mind about how you can help? It's a question I found I couldn't answer, and it's thus no surprise to me that Misplaced Pages is having trouble recruiting and keeping new editors. Perhaps I'll be back someday, but for now I think I'm taking a break until Misplaced Pages gets a better sense of what it's even looking for from contributors. Thanks, though, to all the people who do make Misplaced Pages a fun and useful place! It's been a pleasure "meeting" you, and good luck in your continued editing. -- Khazar (talk) 06:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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Your DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of İnan Süver at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

DYK of Baku Museum of Modern Art in Azerbaijan

Hi, I was wondering if you'd be interested in weighing in at the DYK nomination for the Baku Museum of Modern Art. OCNative (talk) 09:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey OC, though I think you and Shark are very much in the right on this, I'm sorry to say I've got enough of a history with Tony at this point that my intervention couldn't be seen as neutral. If I comment now, he'd be within his rights to call canvassing. Unfortunately, it looks like the usual Tony issues: the borderline civility ("xenophobic"?) and attempt to institute new policies in the hook reviews rather than DYK talk (in this case, the insistence on checking all other articles in a hook for his personal standards of main page readiness). I've tried talking to him about this without success, but with luck another editor will reach out more successfully soon. -- Khazar (talk) 14:32, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I understand. Fortunately, Yngvadottir was able to resolve it. The weird thing is I didn't even link to the article he was referring to, a reviewer added the link! You saw that he lobbed these accusations, and then, he lobbed these accusations with a suggestion I be admonished, but up to that point, the only thing I had ever said about that nom was "All problems fixed. Thanks for the review!" in response to Rcej's review. I asked him for an explanation here, and he promptly ignored it here. What was frustrating is this wasn't a self-nom. Lately, I've been focusing my DYK efforts on nominating other people's articles as an effort to try to encourage new editors (or at least new-to-DYK). This has definitely been the weirdest situations I've ever seen over one of my DYK noms. OCNative (talk) 10:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sony Esteus

On 1 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sony Esteus, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that journalist Sony Esteus had his arm broken by the Port-au-Prince police while covering a story? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

to to

"to to" is not always wrong. The original text was grammatical and correct: "She is constantly bemoaning her job and the lengths she goes to to please Anders". If you're going to use an automated tool, please review what it does. Barsoomian (talk) 03:15, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

My apologies; I was correcting for oponent -> opponent and didn't notice the tool had snagged that non-error as well. (Though it does seem that that sentence could be easily reworded for better grammar and clarity--I'll fix that now.) I do my best to manually double-check every correction, but I imagine one does slip past me every 1,000 edits or so. In any case, thanks for calling my attention to it. Cheers, -- Khazar (talk) 03:20, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK subpages

I'm sending this message to editors who commented at WT:DYK#Page restructuring and expressed an interest in setting up a subpage-based system for DYK nominations. If you have time, please see WT:DYK#New nomination setup and comment there. Thank you, rʨanaɢ (talk) 18:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

50 DYK Medal

		The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Nice work! Your articles on human rights issues and biographies cover all-too-often ignored topics and are a great asset to Misplaced Pages. Thank you! OCNative (talk) 01:37, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks OC, for the medal and kind words! Cheers, -- Khazar (talk) 13:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Completely new abortion proposal and mediation

In light of the seemingly endless disputes over their respective titles, a neutral mediator has crafted a proposal to rename the two major abortion articles (pro-life/anti-abortion movement, and pro-choice/abortion rights movement) to completely new names. The idea, which is located here, is currently open for opinions. As you have been a contributor in the past to at least one of the articles, your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.

The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted. HuskyHuskie (talk) 19:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Greetings!

I appreciate the work you are doing for WP and for human rights issues. --Greenmaven (talk) 22:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! It's a pleasure. -- Khazar (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations on your new Power-Up Mushroom of editorial experience

Congrats on having just become a Most Perfect Tutnum! I am especially admiring because I am now looking with lust in my heart toward my own next level up. to Grognard. Just 10 more edits for me and I'll be there. (Actually, after I post this, just nine more edits.) Anyway, thanks for all those thousands of edits you've spent making things better for lots of people who really, really, really deserved a break. Sharktopus 23:03, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and premature congrats to you as well! -- Khazar (talk) 23:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)