Misplaced Pages

Hey there. I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except patent nonsense like "aojt9085yu8;3ou"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on Votes for deletion (provided there's a consensus) for more than one week, protect pages when asked to, and keep the few protected pages that exist on Misplaced Pages up to date.

Congrats! You deservr this and good luck for the future! --Siva1979 17:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

My congrats as well. See you in AFD. PJM 17:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I hope I will continue to be a good Wikipedian both as an admin and as an editor. Stifle 17:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, good luck and welcome to the mop and bucket chores.--Dakota ~ ° 17:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats and good luck Stifle! --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Nice one Stifle. I never see your noble Celtic name attached to anything but fair comment. Deizio 22:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Why didn't I get a barnstar? Pff! :( --kingboyk 09:19, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Demilicious

Dear Sir or madam,

I've just been linked here from the Demilicious homepage. Why on earth would you want to delete their entry on Wiki? They are a band, they play shows, they have releases. That's it, surely. They are part of a music scene and worthy of entry. I want to find all sorts of things on Misplaced Pages. Dont start taking things down. What would Wiki REALLY be worth if you went round doign that all the time?

Regards,

Andrew Smith

I think you're a couple of days out of date. Assuming you're referring to Demilich (band), I have asked that it be kept. If your request is about something else, please say so and include a link. Also, please add ~~~~ on the end of all your messages to add your username and the date. Thanks. Stifle 15:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Re : Nomination for adminship for (aeropagitica)

Congratulations

Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:

1. Remember you will always save the wrong version.
2. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5)
3. Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll.
4. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block.
5. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology.
6. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. KillerChihuahua 17:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :) Stifle 17:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

KENU and My talk

===>Thanks for the instruction I sometimes get a little too far ahead of myself on new page patrol. Thanks for keeping me accountable. -Justin (koavf), talk 18:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on adminship

Hi, Glad to see you made it (even though I voted neutral, we Irish don't have agreat tradition of supporting each other do we?). Good luck, I have no doubt you'll be an excellent admin. Dlyons493 Talk 18:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, and congratulations! Jayjg 19:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. I've considered you a good candidate ever since that I.J.I.D. trollfest that plagued my first month on job. — Mar. 7, '06 <freakofnur_xture|talk>

Congratulations Stifle, good luck --Ugur Basak 21:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. Use your buttons for good :) — User:Adrian/zap2.js 23:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. Best wish for your adminship.--Jusjih 01:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, and good luck —Quarl 2006-03-08 10:27Z

Congrats! You deserve this! --Siva1979 15:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Gifts for Soliders

Thanks for the reminder, however I'd already reverted my edit after noticing my initial mistake (see the page history) - I'm not sure why you're sending me a reminder after the fact. Thanks anyways, I guess. Cheers. Yankees76 20:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I got there a couple seconds before you in the history, but meh, it's all good ;) Stifle 20:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem - just confirming :) Yankees76 20:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Am...

Am familiar with Wiki-protocol. By the way, I do have a list of Wiki-protocol that you may find useful. It is a list of wikipedia shortcuts. This will allow anyone to access various wiki-links without having to go to WP:AN and asking a Admin for the correct link that they have a interest in, such as reporting that a bug has made a mess in Misplaced Pages. Hope this helps. Martial Law 00:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Speedy Deletion

While working on layout for an entry I was working on (my first from scratch mind you) I saved the article and it immediately got a speedy deletion tag. I continued adding pertinant information and deleted the tab. I hadn't finished the article yet but it was deleted. It was both relevant (An American Roshi publically active in both American Prison Zen teaching, and the Abolition movement against the death penalty. I don't have a lot of spare time but this article is both infinately cross-linkable to relevant other wikipedia articles, and is encyclopedic. However due to speedy deletion before I could finish it I have no real desire to ever do a wikipedia edit again. Thank you for nothing. Trelane 04:46, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Just poking my head in here. I've had the page restored and moved it to Trelane's userspace to avoid having it zotted again before he gets a chance to include more information. In the future please don't edit war in speedy tags against named users who are available for a discussion. --Gmaxwell 05:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm trying to piece together what happened here. I can't see if somebody is "available for a discussion", and if I have to welcome a new user, then chances are they may not be fully aware of policies such as not removing (speedy) deletion tags. It's a good idea to only put up articles that at least pass the guidelines for inclusion (which in the case of biographical articles are WP:BIO), or to work on articles in your userspace before moving them over to the main space. I'm sorry that your early experiences of Misplaced Pages were so negative, but I would hope that you will continue to edit and enjoy your Wiki experience. Stifle 13:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion

While working on an entry I got a proposed deletion tag. Can we talk about it here? evrik 17:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

This is now sorted :) Stifle 09:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Heh. Well done! Stifle 09:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: User_talk:Waggers#Docuvision

Thanks for that; I was getting confused with the various deletion procedures. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, and sorry to make work for you! Waggers 13:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for helping clear this stuff off Misplaced Pages. Stifle 13:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Torenbreskens.jpg

Thanks for your advice and message. Since we are both contributing positively to the project, I would have appreciated a slightly friendlier tone. I assume that you did not mean to sound rude, but it is easy to misinterpret discourse without paralinguistic cues. Cheers. The JPS 13:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I hope the above didn't cause any offence. You must know how disheartening it is, though, when you trawl through dozens of articles to correct various things, and the only feedback is about what you've done wrong. The JPS 14:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it applies to both of us. Apologies for being blunt. Stifle 14:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Ishmael (Small God)

Sorry that was my sense of over subtle humour getting the better of me - anyway someone beat me to the main page deletion idea. Thanks. :: Kevinalewis : 17:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

State Route 15 (California)

Gateman1997 specifically edited and then reverted this page to prevent moving over it. In my view, that is very dickish. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 17:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not disputing that. However, I specifically can't speedy articles to facilitate a move unless it's non-controversial. You will need to take it to WP:RM. Stifle 17:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Typical Earth Alliance Permanent Space Colony

I've clarified and expanded (far more than the article deserves) my reasoning for the speedy deletion request on Typical Earth Alliance Permanent Space Colony. I hope that this helps you to understand the rationale for this nomination, and the entirely non-encyclopedic nature of this article. I have a feeling that some people see the word "fancruft" in a nomination and assume that the nomination is being made on that basis. Red-read my rationale and you will see that I was poiting out that, even as fancruft, the article could not be seen as meeting the notability requirement stated in CSD/Articles item #7. Thank you for your time. I was under the impression that speedy nominations should be marked as minor, and I have done so for the last year or so, but I'll look into it and change as required by the policies involved (which may have changed). -Harmil 19:18, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

While I may agree that the page should be speedied, CSD A7 refers to real people or real groups of people. This article is about a fictional group. I'm afraid that it will have to go to AFD or some other venue. Stifle 19:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for supporting my RfA!

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/DJ Sharkey (2nd nomination)

Hi Stifle. I'm just letting you (the sole delete vote) know that I closed the above debate as "Keep (withdrawn by nominator)". Any objections please let me know, but do note my outlining of how the article already asserts notability. Cheers! --kingboyk 23:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Sunnydale High.jpg

Hiya, does an image of a high school have copyright ownership to anyone? Have I put it under the wrong label, what's your advice? Thanks -- Paxomen 11:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

BIYC

Hi,

I was wondering why you saw fit to delete the wikipedia page:

BIYC

The record label the page references may be slightly satirical and have a tongue in cheek attitude, but it does exist and is both popular and successful in the area of music that it aims to cover. People have described it as the V/vm of netlabels. It has recieved critical praise from fields as diverse as Ninja Tune and "We are the Music Makers".

Although I'd rather not publicise it on the main BIYC entry, the record label has a few "stars" of electronic music (from Warp Records, the same label as Maximo Park, who even if you have no interest in electronica, are likely to of heard of)recording for the label under pseudonyms (to avoid contractual infidelity). This isn't the bedroom project of a few stupid teenagers, visited solely by their friends; We have a large fan base and it's a legitimate project of at least as much validity as other small/indie record labels who have entries on Wiki. Quite why you deleted the entry for this label, yet still have entries for Mego and Merck, both of whom folded and one entry of which is a stub is unclear.

The article itself was informative, clearly written and free of S.P.A.G errors. Aside from giving away enough of the title that people old enough to know could work it out, it also had no content worth censoring.

I'm a moderator myself at XLTronic, so I know it is a nuisance responding to these sort of "why did you delete my.../ban me" posts, but in this instance I genuinely feel it is unjustified.

Cheers,

Ceri

Biyc 14:07, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't delete the page, merely userfied it to User:Biyc. Your user page is a place to tell us about yourself and your projects. Please see WP:CORP, WP:NMG, WP:N, and WP:AUTO for details of what Misplaced Pages includes. Thanks! Stifle 23:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Colignatus

I disagree with your handling of User:Colignatus. He has been warned many times about personal attacks on Talk:Borda fixed point, and I already gave him a strongly-worded warning on his talk page, so even if you don't believe the threats are threats, he should still be blocked for personal attacks.

Colignatus has shut down all reasonable discussion on two articles by making personal attacks and academic threats, and he has gotten the idea that he can get away with it. It accomplishes nothing at this point to say "I'm warning you, be nice or I'll warn you again." rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 15:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. I would encourage you to use the Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution procedure, including Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment if you still have problems. Stifle 23:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Sigh. Okay. Here's the RFC -- could you certify it? rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 05:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. Stifle 00:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Speedy deletion

Thanks for the welcome message and sorry for putting a speedy deletion tag which should have been a NCT tag. --Mlino76 17:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for your support in my RfA. It passed, with a final tally of 62/0/1. I'm touched by all the kind comments it attracted, and hope I'll be of some use with the new tools. You know where I am if you need to shout at me. Flowerparty? 15:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Templates

Hi Stifle, I've seen you put onto a user's talk page a long notice starting: "I notice that you tagged this page for speedy deletion, with the reason..." (i.e. a CSD decline). Are you using a template to do that, and if so where is it?

If yes, please let me know on my talk page, if no then no reply is needed :-) Thanks! Not sure if I congratulated you on your promotion or not but if I didn't, congratulations - you deserve it. --kingboyk 09:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

This is, for the time being, manually typed, as there are simply too many variables. I may try to come up with something in the near future, and if I do, I'll let you know. Stifle 18:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Naconkantari e|t||c|m 23:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Thank you for your recent vote on my RFA. While the nomination failed, I was rather expecting it due to the big lapse between registration and recent edits. I appreciate the comments you left when you voted, and I will definitely keep them in mind. If you have any other suggestions as to how I could improve as a Wikipedian, so as to hopefully succeed next time, please let me know! Thanks! —akghetto  07:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

PROD tag

thank you very much for reminding me about this tag, Ive been looking for it... once againg, thanks! American Patriot 1776 23:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats

Congrats on becoming an admin! I was hoping you could help with something. In deletion review (and the deletion process for that matter) and article was deleted that I believe should not have been. User:Tony Sidaway agrees. The article was deleted for notability, but the person in question was mentioned in about a dozen different mainstream media articles, included a recent front page article in the New York Times. Can you take a look and vote accordingly? The review is here. Misplaced Pages:Deletion Review#John Bambenek. Thanks. -- Alpha269 04:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. I've voted to endorse the deletion, as process was followed completely. Stifle 11:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Allen Boyd.jpeg

I noticed that you tagged the page Image:Allen Boyd.jpeg for speedy deletion with the reason "Allen Boyd has a better picture that is also in public domain. this pic serves no purpose". However, "Allen Boyd has a better picture that is also in public domain. this pic serves no purpose" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use one of our other deletion processes, proposed deletion or articles for deletion if you still want the article to be deleted. Thanks! Or, in this case, you can use WP:IFD giving the reason "orphaned" (OR). Stifle 16:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, this is the first time anyone has pointed that out to me, even thought I've used the speedy deletion path many times to get rid of orphaned/obsolete images I've personally encountered/obsoleted. Honestly though, it is little nitpicky rules and procedures like this that make the more complicated aspects of wiki difficult for regular users to deal with. I don't blame you, but administrators and higher-ups, in general, have made honest, hardworking, proper-copyright-respecting contributors jump through hoops to improve this encyclopedia. I’m not blaming you, its just that frustration can sometimes get the best of me. G'luck and happy wikipedia-ing. Cornell Rockey 17:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. It's close to CSD:I1 (image redundant), but it does not appear to be an exact copy in lower resolution. I'm loathe to speedy images when there's even a shadow of doubt that the image is not deleteable, because image deletion is not reversible. Stifle 19:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Guyanamap.gif

Hello Stifle, Thanks for your advice for Redundant image deletion. I will be following the same procedure as you stated. But concerning the image which you are telling about that author did not make a request for deletion is quite confusing for me because on the image page itself he stated Delete this map; it has been superseded. So i think he wants to request deletion. Regards, Shyam 21:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You posted the speedy tag, but you are not the author. Kelisi is. Since he posted the map originally and then the request after that, I will now speedy it. Stifle 21:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Thank you for commenting on my RFA. I appreciated the comments and will endeavor to improve with my new sysop status. If there's ever anything I can do to help, please don't hesitate to contact me. --Myles Long 15:05, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

lol!

I forgot about that! that was my first rfc. Can it be un-done? In any case, could you give me a copy of the page and talk page? Thx and peace.--Striver 23:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I would like a copy of the rfc and rfc talk page on my userspace. Thank you.--Jersey Devil 00:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

It's up at User:Jersey Devil/RFC and User talk:Jersey Devil/RFC. Stifle 09:37, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I have to strongly object here; I realize that I didn't sign the Cerify section, but had I realized it hadn't been done I would have done so immediately, and I am reasonably certain there are 3-4 other people who would do so. Stifle, you may have acted in accord with the letter of WP policy, but you have done the spirit a huge disservice here. This was an active ongoing discussion, and the particular subject of it (Jersey Devil AfD'ing stuff) just happened again with another dozen or so nominations of striver's articles.

The letter of WP policy should never be used to destroy something which is important and in active use and not harming anyone.

This is already blowing up in AfD again, and now has nowhere else to go because you killed the RfC page. This is incredibly frustrating.

I strongly urge an undelete. If you do so, I will certify as soon as it happens and I am next logged on to WP. If necessary I will contact others and get someone else to attest here that they will certify if you do so. Georgewilliamherbert 21:25, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Poloyoe

Are you handling this case? --Scaife Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 13:16, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm just about to block him for 3RR. Stifle 13:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. Most of the sysops logged of flast night and it seemed as soon as an article was deleted, he'd recreate it. I appreciate it, hopefully next time "cooler heads will prevail." --Scaife Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 13:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiDefcon 1

Hello! FYI, the WikiDefcon 1 is reserved for really extreme cases of vandalism. If you feel that there is some increase of activity (I did a quick check with CDVF and couldn't spot it) it rather qualifies as 4. 3 and 2 are used when Misplaced Pages is assaulted by massive attack by automated/bot attack (such as SQUIDWARD). Finally, I don't know if level 1 (formerly known as "Overwhelming level of vandalism. Database lock recommended.") was ever legitimately called. Thus, I have reverted it back to 5. Please be careful in judging the situation in future not to cause unnecessary panic. Thank you, Misza13 13:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

...um... what? What did I do? I presume it was an accident, but I'm not sure what you're talking about. Stifle 13:25, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I think you got me mixed up with User:Scaife. Stifle 13:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Um, yes... Sorry... Actually, I'm wondering now which links did I follow to make that mistake. ;-p I'll bug him now then. Sorry again. --Misza13 13:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Welcome new admin!

Congrats on your adminship Stifle. I'm sending you and all new admins a quick request for you to put your new admin powers into effect to assist in an important area: deleting images that have been tagged as having no source info after 7 days. The category is at Category:Images with unknown source. Most of the images have been removed from articles, but some may have been skipped. It would be fantastic if you could assist in this matter! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Snake charmer image

Hi, Stifle. Can you tell me why File:India snake charmer.jpg was speedied? — BrianSmithson 15:40, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yup. It was a non-free image, licensed only under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs. Images uploaded since May 19th, 2005 with a nonfree license are speediable. Stifle 17:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay. Are CC without the non-derivs, non-commerical restrictions keepable? — BrianSmithson 18:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes. All versions of CC-by and CC-by-sa are fine. With nc it's immediately speediable, and with nd I think it gets seven days for some reason. Stifle 20:49, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up! — BrianSmithson 20:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)