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... am I supposed to "stand up for my opinions? 50.80.139.102 (talk) 04:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC) My mistake. I was under the misinterpretation that you gave a crap. 50.80.139.102 (talk) 04:11, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

If you don't follow Misplaced Pages's policies like every other editor, you won't be allowed to edit here. It's no more complicated than that. -- Atama頭 07:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

(On a side note, while your last comment was clearly negative against me, I don't consider it a personal attack. If someone doesn't like me they have a right to say so, I don't mind.) -- Atama頭 07:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages policies have nothing to do with it. It's called cronyism. 50.80.139.102 (talk) 16:00, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

ping

⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 01:22, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hi Atama. I hope you don't greatly object to what some call "the orange bar of death" but I've replied to you here. Thanks,  – OhioStandard (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I get few enough messages that it doesn't bother me, and I appreciate the notification. :) -- Atama頭 16:45, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

NXIVM

Yep, I agree with marking as resolved, it looks like all is calm after the cooling off and semi-protect :) Another wiki-wide-war averted. haha Tiggerjay (talk) 07:22, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Torchwoodwho

Hi Atama, thanks for the note a while ago after my RfA. I think I had a long enough wikibreak and I'm ready to pick up where I left off. I scrambled my old password, so I had to create a new account. I'm just waiting out my auto-confirmation period and hopefully I'll snag rollback and get back my huggle work. Thanks again --Torchwoodtwo (talk) 10:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you're back, I thought it was a shame when you left. Just to let you know, there's a major push to reform RfA because of how rough it is on candidates. Check out Misplaced Pages:RfA reform 2011 to see what it's about, and you can participate if you feel inclined (someone who has had your experience should be able to provide some helpful input). I'll just warn you, though, that there have been numerous attempts to reform RfA over the years and it never gets done, but every once in a while the hippo rolls over. -- Atama頭 16:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Autoblock

Hello there, Would you mind undoing the remaining autoblock on User:Nableezy's account? Thanks. Tiamut 01:33, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Lifted. NW (Talk) 02:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Nableezy

Atama, thanks for reviewing the block. I can see that consensus was against me in this case, which I am fine with. If you have the time, I would appreciate it if you would be willing to write to me (either publicly or privately) about how you feel I could have better handled the situation. Might as well use it for a learning experience if nothing else. NW (Talk) 02:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I put up an entry on this webpage and a user is deleting it for no reason. She isn't discussing the reasons why on the discussion board but putting up useless comments about how she "likes socks". Well, the category is for the individual's religion. She is an atheist. The categories are there to guide the encyclopaedia to provide information to the public. This allows people to reference categories. Particularly relevant in politics. Among a number of things is to allow people to do searches. I found this entry because of listening to the radio and there is a religion in politics debate. I wanted to know who is an atheist in the debate and who is religious. Also Euthanasia is a big issue and as health minister it is good to know what religion she is. It only adds to the encyclopaedia not detracting from it. Look at the entries for politics around the world. Religion is a big thing in Australian politics. Incogfrig (talk) 13:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

See notice on user's talk page and Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Bruce99999. Cheers, JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know what's behind this. I wonder why this person chose to leave a message for me? -- Atama頭 17:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Blocking of 95.48.70.154‎

Hi, I notice that you blocked 95.48.70.154 for "vandalising" the COI noticeboard. Just to give you some context, this is the fallout from a conversation at Talk:David_Eppstein#Personal_attacks, where I suggested that their comments weren't appropriate for the article talk page and should be taken elsewhere. Although I don't agree with the content of their post, it's something that's been a hot issue recently, and blocking people will only raise the temperature and make it harder to resolve this. Certainly the user's actions were clumsy, but they don't seem to fit the criteria described at WP:VANDAL. Would you consider reviewing this block in an effort to encourage good faith here? And in any case, please accept my apologies for the chaos that's been caused. Jowa fan (talk) 14:05, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

On the contrary, I applaud your block, which was only for the vandalism of the COIN.

This IP address has renewed severe violations of talk-page, NPA, and AGF policies, for which another IP editor was recently blocked. This person obviously read the talk page at David Eppstein, cherry-picked old attacks, and ignored the extensive discussion of WP policy whose flagrant violation he renewed. He is renewing a sequence of personal attacks against User:David Eppstein, that has been thoroughly discussed at the COIN, at which the attacks were labeled harassment and retaliation.

The probability of a random new IP editor fixating (in good faith ...) on David Eppstein seems negligible to me. Perhaps Check-User facilities allow linguistic analysis of the prose of this editor/the previously blocked IP editor?

Sincerely,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 16:58, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate both of your comments. As usual, my actions bring a mixed reaction. Oh well. For Jowa fan, I walked back my block rationale and acknowledged that perhaps it wasn't pure vandalism, and apologized to the editor for suggesting as much. But considering the massive disruption of the IP's actions I don't have any qualms about the block, and as I said if the action is repeated I will block for a longer length of time. I'm not sure if you understand what the IP did; they removed every single thread from the noticeboard and replaced it with threads that were archived weeks ago. And this was done again after a reversion and warning. If the IP does this again, knowing full well that their actions are damaging the noticeboard (because they were warned repeatedly), that will definitely fit our definition of vandalism. Frankly, I don't care about "raising the temperature" at a single article if it means we lose the functionality of an entire noticeboard for it. My block was meant to prevent disruption and further blocks, if they occur, will have the same goal.

Kiefer, I don't know, maybe? Perhaps a checkuser could link the IPs together, using other data (such as the browser or computer) but it's probably easier to link the IPs together behaviorally and a checkuser isn't required to do that. Unfortunately I don't have any familiarity with the history of that article's disputes, so someone else might be a better choice for that. -- Atama頭 22:22, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the reply. I'm not actually defending this user's actions, I agree that it is a significant nuisance; I was just surprised to see the word "vandalism" used in this way. But your actions certainly do make sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Jowa fan (talk) 01:07, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies, both of you. The blocked IP is a smart fellow, who should be able to contribute to WP in more constructive ways.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 08:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

iWorkwell

Hello,

I recently created a page about the company iWorkwell Inc. which you deleted. I was wondering if you could restore the page, or at the very least explain to me what I need to change in order for it to be acceptable to you. Thassonjee (talk) 19:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thassonjee (talk • contribs) 19:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

You need to objectively describe what iWorkwell does, and you also need to assert the importance of the company. Doing so without actively promoting it is difficult, but essential. I suggest looking at articles for other companies on Misplaced Pages to get an idea of the proper tone and what kind of information is needed. -- Atama頭 19:17, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

ANI thread to archives

Hi, Atama! The AN/I thread over our checkuser clerk friend's comments has (finally!) rolled to archives, I notice, and that means the corresponding SPI report for Nocal100 may do so soon, as well. Heimstern said on his talk he was in favor of strikethrough, as I understood, and I know you were, but he seems to have lost interest in the thread. I really shouldn't strike through the comments myself, since I was so very active in promoting that. I am not asking you to do so, either, but rather just observing that if you did intend to do so, as I thought you might be considering, based on your comments on Heimstern's page, that it would probably be better to do so sooner rather than later, with the SPI case likely to close soon. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 21:51, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, done. -- Atama頭 22:29, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Atama, for striking through the accusation OhanaUnited left on my talk page. I really appreciate your doing this, and the way you did it as well. You have made a fellow-Wikipedian very happy today. betsythedevine (talk) 22:40, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy to do something for someone that hasn't made anyone upset (yet), so you're very welcome. :) -- Atama頭 22:43, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

My RfA

I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, jsfouche ☽☾Talk 02:15, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Enidblyton11‎

Hi Atama, Your decision to turn of Enidblyton11‎'s ability to edit their talk page was a good call - the editor was repeating the same kind of time-wasting insincere unblock requests they'd previously lodged under their sockpuppet accounts. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote of confidence. :) I also received an email from them, which I promptly deleted. -- Atama頭 16:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Football score

 Chzz  ►  14:52, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Black Veil Brides

Hello,

I saw that there is some confusion as to my identity and the identity of user Jinxxed4Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Black_Veil_Brides) . What can I do to prove to you and the rest of the community that we are who we say we are? I am new to Misplaced Pages so I am not familiar with all of the in's and outs of this site but I truly am the bands management. You can check their official Facebook page facebook.com/blackveilbrides and see that they have Mercenary Management listed in the info section for management contact. You can email me directly at Dan@mercenarymanagement.com . Unlike the other people editing the page I have a source to prove all of the info I post/edit and I have proper credentials to ensure its coming from reliable sources (the band themselves). The user Jinxx4life is in fact the real Jinxx as well. Please advise.

Thanks, Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeAwareX1 (talk • contribs) 03:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I believe you, both of you. Someone who was masquerading wouldn't go through as much trouble as you are to prove yourselves, so I'll take what you say at face value. I'd really like it if the both of you could join the discussion at the conflict of interest noticeboard. Keep in mind that it's not a place to report people to be "punished" or anything, it's just a place to work things out when multiple people disagree on how an article should be edited, and one or more of those people are closely related to the article subject. (In this case, you're the manager and Jinxx is a member, so I think you'll agree you're both very close!)

A couple of things you should keep in mind though. Misplaced Pages has a particular definition of reliable source, you can see it in the guideline WP:RS. For a source to be truly reliable, it needs to be independent of the subject. So, what the band or management claims isn't considered reliable (you couldn't possibly be 100% impartial), but what a journalist writes about you in a newspaper probably would be. There is a guide for any organization that has an article on Misplaced Pages, seen at WP:FAQO. For the most part, an article must be based on what other people say about the band. That's one of the basic tenets of Misplaced Pages.

This doesn't mean that Misplaced Pages won't accept what the band says. It also doesn't mean that you, Jinxx, or anyone else associated with the band isn't allowed to edit the article or have a say in discussions about what's in the article. We do accept your band's official website or other documentation as a reference for undisputed information. So again, I think it would be great if you contribute to the article's development, just keep in mind that you'll have to work with other editors and won't be able to control what the content is.

Again, the noticeboard is a great place for this discussion, or the article's talk page could work as well. I'd be a neutral party in this matter, I have no stake in anything the article says, my only goals are to see that people are able to work together and that everyone follows Misplaced Pages's policies properly (and I'm more than happy to help you figure them out, I'm an administrator and I'm supposed to have a good grasp on them; I hope I do at least). -- Atama頭 04:55, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks so much for your help. I really appreciate you taking the time out to answer my questions. I'll be sure to be more active in the discussion board. Thanks again :) BeAwareX1 (talk) 10:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Paul Pogba

Hi, could you please unsalt this title? It was deleted per a deletion discussion over a year ago in 2009. The concern was that he was not signed with a major league. In October 2009, after the deletion discussion ended, he signed with Manchester United. I believe he now satisfies WP:ATHLETE. Thanks.--v/r - TP 21:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

If you haven't yet, your best bet is to make a draft first. I'd even ask for someone to review it, maybe at WP:SPORTS. If you have a userspace draft, I'd like to see it before I unsalt the article. I trust you, but I don't want to have it redeleted and resalted right away (it would look bad for both of us). I might even give you a hand with it (I'm not the best content creator but I'm not the worst either). Thanks! -- Atama頭 22:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't mean to go around you but I saw MuZemike was on IRC and as he was the last admin to touch it I thought I might ask him. I've already moved it into article space. Another user created it at Paul pogba with a lowercase and I took that and improved it and then moved it into the space. MuZemike reviewed the article prior to unsalting as there were some copyright violation concerns prior to my edits. Sorry again for causing confusion.--v/r - TP 22:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

No, it's all good. I'm glad MuZemike was able to help you out. :) -- Atama頭 22:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Why was my page deleted? "NerveDecompressionPatients"

This page is absolutely not related to a company or advertising. The data I was painstakingly entering in table form was manually gathered by and for nerve decompression surgery patients. There is currently no central resource for collecting/presenting this data; I looked to Misplaced Pages to house it. After spending a few hours transferring the data from Excel into the table format of the wiki page, you have deleted it with no specific reason or direction. Please let me know what I can do to restore the page; if you have any questions about the data or its purpose, please don't hesitate to contact me (nataliathespy@hotmail.com).

For a couple of reasons. First, you're assuming that advertising with must have a financial motive, but Misplaced Pages disallows all forms of promotion, no matter what the cause is. That user page was clearly promoting the "Headache-Hope" sites. In addition, Misplaced Pages is not a free web host. See WP:UPYES for the guidelines on how to properly make use of your user page. If you need some place to house the data for your project, Misplaced Pages is not that place. Misplaced Pages is for one thing and one thing only; creating and maintaining an online encyclopedia. Any other activity not related to the encyclopedia in some form is not allowed. -- Atama頭 21:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:54, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it was a PROD so as far as I'm concerned if someone wants it around, it can stay. -- Atama頭 07:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

THANKS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prashantkharat (talk • contribs) 14:47, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Little Switzerland Caribbean Page

 Good Morning Atama,

     Could you please inform me on why you deleted the page I was working on?  What do I need to do to get it restored.

Thank you,

LibSib — Preceding unsigned comment added by LibSib (talk • contribs) 12:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello, the article was written like an advertisement. We don't allow advertising on Misplaced Pages, please see WP:ARTSPAM. If you are affiliated with the company in any way, please read WP:FAQO for advice on how to participate on Misplaced Pages, thank you. -- Atama頭 16:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi

I noticed you declined the deletion notices on a few pages I made. Much appreciated. Now then, would you be able to help me rescue a few more pages I made several months ago? All of a sudden, I feel like this one user is ganging up on me, requesting several pages that I made months ago for deletion, today. Tinton5 (talk) 21:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I think it would be better to bring it to another venue. WP:ANI might be good, because a discussion may result in the deletion or restoration of a number of articles which would require administrator assistance. Essentially, I was thinking it might be a good idea to open up a wider debate and/or confirmation that we want essentially empty articles pointing to Wiktionary. I assume we do, but I'm not comfortable taking action on more than a few pages without confirmation from more editors. If you do decide to open a debate there, please inform Reaper Eternal to allow them to make their claim as well, thank you. -- Atama頭 21:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

sockpuppet

i can confirm that my brother anglo is on an account called thulist. im not happy about this, there will probably be an IP ban now and i will get banned along with him, im not popular on wikipedia anyway becuase of my brothers association with the BNP, i got lumped in with him and many admins have low respect for me. i am not bnp though, im actually very far left and pro green, i would like to say though i know my brother is pro bnp but apart from that problem, he is not a vandal on wikipedia, hes a history student in university and is actually very clever, if there is an ip ban than that is fair play to be honest with u its probably for the best, i know i will get banned along with him but hes going back to uni in 2 months, so if it was a 2 month ban, it would be good as in 2months he will be no longer posting from this Ip address. Liveintheforests (talk) 21:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

No you won't, or at least I'll stand up for you. You might want to comment at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Anglo Pyramidologist, anyone is allowed to comment there. If you're forthcoming about anything you know that would confirm the connection between your brother and the new account, it should relieve the suspicion from you. Also, if I block Thulist88 I won't initiate the autoblock (I don't think it would be necessary in this case anyway). -- Atama頭 21:15, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Evil spammy template

Please excuse and remove if you don't care for these, with my apologies. KillerChihuahuaAdvice 21:40, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Heh, I was just flattered you called me a "regular". :) -- Atama頭 22:21, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Note I did not specify a regular what. *puts on halo, looks innocent*. KillerChihuahuaAdvice 22:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Fast Lane Ventures

What words of advertising or promotion did this article contain? We talked with another administrator who previously deleted the article, he said that after being rewrited it looked much better. That was not me who deleted the tag of proposed deletion... So deletion of an article without any discussion is not the thing i expected... Z1exa (talk) 18:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Every sentence in the lead was promotional, except for the last sentence which neutrally describes two funds the company was promoting. Using terms like "innovative", "leverages knowledge", "implement ideas that had been successfully realized", "continuously supports them with experience"... That's market speak. The only real improvement to the article that I see from its initial creation was to tone down the description of its portfolio. Since you are affiliated with the company, I strongly suggest you read WP:FAQO and decide whether or not you are here to help us improve Misplaced Pages, or if you have other goals. -- Atama頭 18:17, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'm new to Misplaced Pages and don't know all the rules, but really tried to rewrite the article in a neutral way suitable for Misplaced Pages. I consulted with another administrator Jimfbleak, he gave me some advice so I waited for some criticism from you to make the article better, but this "speedy deletion" upset me really... May I have another chance to clean out all the "promotional" words out of it? I promise to follow all of your directions, as I'm really interested in learning how to write good articles for Misplaced Pages. Z1exa (talk) 11:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Jim said it was better but warned you that it was likely to be deleted, and he was correct. Misplaced Pages has a speedy deletion policy for a reason, and with promotion, the longer the article is on Misplaced Pages, the longer the company gets to enjoy free advertising. If an article requires a substantial rewrite to be deemed as non-promotional, then it can be deleted. At least half of that article would have needed to be reworded, so I judged it to fall under our speedy deletion criteria.

I'll restore the article to one of your user subpages, at User:Z1exa/Fast Lane Ventures, to give you a chance to clean it up without it being under the scrutiny that the article would have in regular namespace. When you feel ready, you can request that it be moved back into regular article space. I will warn you, though, that aside from the advertising problems the article seems to have some issues with notability; basically, I don't see much evidence in the most recent version of the article that shows that the company has had significant coverage from multiple reliable sources independent of the company itself. A lack of notability would not lead to speedy deletion, but it could lead to a deletion discussion and if the article is deleted there, it can't be restored until you can satisfy the concerns brought up in the discussion. So that might be another thing you could work on improving while the article is on your subpage. Good luck. -- Atama頭 17:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Allured Business Media

Will you please userfy this article so that I can keep working on it? I'm new to the Misplaced Pages community and am still figuring out how to navigate it. Thanks. Allured9 (talk) 18:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I've moved it to User:Allured9/Allured Business Media. I've removed the material that was copied from the source, although it was in quotes, and was referenced, it's a dodgy use of copyrighted material at best. Also, it comprised of half of the article, which is definitely not acceptable. On another note, you'll need to request a new username at WP:CHUS. Your current username is clearly meant to represent the Allured Business Media company which is a violation of WP:ORGNAME. Often we block editors who have a username violation such as that, but I'll be lenient in your case, as long as you make sure to request the change soon (preferably in the next 24 hours). -- Atama頭 19:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I understand that it looks like my username is meant to represent the company, but it's actually my last name and I've had it for at least a couple years. I would like to keep it because I've had communications with other users that I don't want to lose. Is it acceptable in this case or is there no way to make the distinction? Allured9 (talk) 19:29, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I would still encourage you to do so. I understand wanting to keep the name "Allured" if it's your real surname, but I'd suggest making it more obvious that it's your name, either by adding a first name, or initials, or something else. As long as you continue to edit topics related to the Allured company people are going to assume you are attempting representation and/or promotion with your username. -- Atama頭 19:39, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I've followed your advice and requested a new username. Can I ask you to review the Allured Business Media article as I have it so far on my page? I'd like your feedback as I continue to revise it. Allured9 (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Restore request

Could you please restore File:Misplaced Pages Autoreviewer.svg? It is used in many places. Thank you. ۞ Tbhotch & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 18:57, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

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