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| {{cite journal |journal=Br J Psychol |year=2010 |volume= |issue= |pages= |title= Illusions of causality at the heart of pseudoscience |author= Matute H, Yarritu I, Vadillo MA |doi=10.1348/000712610X532210 |pmid=21092400 |url=http://bpsoc.publisher.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpsoc/bjp/pre-prints/bjp898 }} Do you agree the ] compliant source must be restored and sumarised at Pseudoscience? ] (]) 18:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC) | {{cite journal |journal=Br J Psychol |year=2010 |volume= |issue= |pages= |title= Illusions of causality at the heart of pseudoscience |author= Matute H, Yarritu I, Vadillo MA |doi=10.1348/000712610X532210 |pmid=21092400 |url=http://bpsoc.publisher.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpsoc/bjp/pre-prints/bjp898 }} Do you agree the ] compliant source must be restored and sumarised at Pseudoscience? ] (]) 18:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC) | ||
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| I have not read what you have written and will not discuss this with you here. This is not a personal issue it is a community issue. Please use the ]. I view your posting here as verging on harassment. <font color="#500000">]</font><font color="#005000">]</font> 01:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC) | I have not read what you have written and will not discuss this with you here. This is not a personal issue it is a community issue. Please use the ]. I view your posting here as verging on harassment. <font color="#500000">]</font><font color="#005000">]</font> 01:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC) | ||
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| No, you please stop your original research and editing against core Misplaced Pages policy. You have repeatedly ignored my comments on the talk page and forced me to come to your talk page. Do you agree to . Please remove the OR you added to the article. You have refused to provided verification in accordance with V policy. Do not falsely accuse me of harassment again and try to start collaborating with other editors rather than continue to ignore the concerns in regard to your repeated pattern of edits against long established policy. You are trying the patience of the community. Do you understand that a lot of text you added to the article is . Please make an effort to edit in accordance with Misplaced Pages policies. ] (]) 18:00, 19 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, I noticed you deleted all the information i put down on the Grameen Foundation because they were primary resources. I am fairly new at editing and I am doing this for a class project for my University. I would very much appreciate any help or advice you could give me regarding my edits as well as allow me to make edits. Jvele (talk) 04:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC) jvele
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Repeated pattern of violating core policies
You replaced sourced text with a 1965 reference on quackery that did not verify the claim. The previous reference you deleted against V policy verified the claim "Pseudoscience, superstitions, and quackery are serious issues that are a threat to public health." You added OR. The sentence "Pseudoscience can negatively impact health, politics and education." was also OR.
You added OR. The sentence "Some forms of pseudoscience such as superstitions, and medical quackery can be serious threats to public health." is OR. The sentence "The National Science Foundation, has called for better public education about pseudoscience in order to combat scientific misinformation, misrepresentation and fraud." is also OR.
You added "Pseudoscientific explanations and concepts acquired by students outside of school can be obstacles in science education." The sentence is OR. For example, you were unable to verify the claim.
Please stop adding unsourced text or text that failed verification to the article. Do you agree to stop adding WP:OR? QuackGuru (talk) 18:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Solid mainstream source in accordance with V
The Mattel et al. ref is a high-quality source. Your objection is with V policy. You seem to have a personal disagreement with the authors. It is inappropriate behaviour to suggest the source is unreliable.
It is OR if you take the source out of context. We must include the public health issue because the authors think pseudoscience is a serious matter.
One of the main pseudoscience points from full text is: "As preoccupied and active as many governmental and sceptical organizations are in their fight against pseudoscience, quackery, superstitions and related problems, their efforts in making the public understand the scientific facts required to make good and informed decisions are not always as effective as they should be. Pseudoscience can be defined as any belief or practice that pretends to be scientific but lacks supporting evidence. Quackery is a particular type of pseudoscience that refers to medical treatments. Superstitions are irrational beliefs that normally involve cause–effect relations that are not real, as those found in pseudoscience and quackery. These are a serious matter of public health and educational policy in which many variables are involved."
The authors thought it was so important they summarised the public health issue in the abstract. According to the authors pseudoscience is a serious matter that threatens public health. It ius OR if we don't summarise the main pseudoscience points.
From abstract: "Pseudoscience, superstitions, and quackery are serious problems that threaten public health and in which many variables are involved."
Matute H, Yarritu I, Vadillo MA (2010). "Illusions of causality at the heart of pseudoscience". Br J Psychol. doi:10.1348/000712610X532210. PMID 21092400.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) Do you agree the WP:V compliant source must be restored and sumarised at Pseudoscience? QuackGuru (talk) 18:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Please stop
I have not read what you have written and will not discuss this with you here. This is not a personal issue it is a community issue. Please use the article talk page. I view your posting here as verging on harassment. Jojalozzo 01:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
No, you please stop your original research and editing against core Misplaced Pages policy. You have repeatedly ignored my comments on the talk page and forced me to come to your talk page. Do you agree to stop editing against Misplaced Pages policy and agree the peer-reviewed reliable source must be restored. Please remove the OR you added to the article. You have refused to provided verification in accordance with V policy. Do not falsely accuse me of harassment again and try to start collaborating with other editors rather than continue to ignore the concerns in regard to your repeated pattern of edits against long established policy. You are trying the patience of the community. Do you understand that a lot of text you added to the article is against Misplaced Pages policy. Please make an effort to edit in accordance with Misplaced Pages policies. QuackGuru (talk) 18:00, 19 May 2011 (UTC)