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Your edit summary at AN/I, "down the rabbit hole"

You realize, don't you, that you are just begging for a response in edit summary "EAT ME"!  :)--Wehwalt (talk) 13:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Double entendres FTW. Tarc (talk) 13:10, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tarc!

Yeah, the socks you just cited are all me.

I admire your observations regarding my choices of usernames.

I also admire your previous explanation of my User:G-MMDC account. You were the only one to pick up on that, while everyone else missed it.

For the record, User:Yohann4, which has been suspected of being me, is not me. I readily admit that all the others are me, but User:Yohann4 is not me, and I do not like getting the credit for someone else's work.

That being said, I find it reprehensible that you and the others are still removing notable, well sourced info, just because that info happens to be critical of Obama. I have never, ever erased any notable, well sourced material from any article. Articles should cite the good and bad things about their subjects.

Spirobranchus giganteus (talk) 19:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Your latest one, "Hand me the keys you fairy godmother!", is pretty cute, too. That was a prety bad Usual Suspects dub by AMC. Tarc (talk) 16:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't think AMC was the originator of that altered version, as it also appeared on other TV stations. It's a common practice with R-rated movies.

I saw that movie in the theater seven times when it was originally out, including the opening day. I didn't know there was a surprise ending, so I was really, genuinely surprised. Today, people who see it for the first time usually know there's a surprise at the end, so it's not as big a shock to them as it was to me.

The news said it's raining in New York (talk) 07:02, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Be happy

I am sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable. You made me feel a bit so. Misplaced Pages should strive to be a happy and cooperative place.

70.129.17.11

You caught the "trollz and lulz" post on Jimbo's talk page but you missed this. Considering both his edits I thought a final warning was warranted. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 12:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Didn't get to checking his contribs yet, got sidetracked by other stuff. Dunno how ol Jimmy feels about his talk page being protected, but he may wanna consider it at some point, at least for a short stint. Tarc (talk) 12:51, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

user rquest

Hi, user is requesting notification of http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:General_sanctions/Climate_change_probation/Requests_for_enforcement#Request_concerning_Tarc, excuse me if you have seen it, regards Off2riorob (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

thoughts on DrV

Tarc, While I generally disagree with you and so have some conflict that way, I'm finding your comments in DrVs recently to be fairly uncivil. Please consider toning it down a notch or two. Thanks, Hobit (talk) 02:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

A bit sharp, probably, but this Freakshow person has been quite a handful the last few days. He's pretty much stalking another users contribs and undoing every record label prod of theirs in sight the last few days as well. I have little patience for people I view as a net negative to the project. Tarc (talk) 02:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Gwyn Elfyn

Haia, Tarc. Re Gwyn Elfyn (and your advocacy for his demotion), you wrote:

>>Not that it matters much anyway, since barring a miraculous influx of well-reasoned keep opinions, this is going to be merged, but...actually, yes, you are. We have a widely-accepted guideline for this type of situation. This particular article fails all 3, yet you feel it should be kept anyways on the basis of "10th longest-serving actor" being notable.<<

Well, I think that it matters not "on the basis of '10th longest-serving actor'" but on the basis that I live in Wales and I can tell you that GE is a pretty damned notable actor here! However, I suppose I must recognize that trying to combat Wp-Americanocentrism is always going to result in mostly lost skirmishes. Doesn't mean though that the battle won't continue! Do have to wonder, all the same, about the apparent, strange mean-mindedness of certain Wp "vigilantes"... -- Picapica (talk) 20:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Cool story, bro. Tarc (talk) 14:16, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Honored

While I am honored to be your brother in thuggery, you should probably be aware that you have a fan. MastCell  20:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Yea, some inclusionist or inclusionist fanboy has been quite butthurt over me lately. Note the clever Overturn and censure Tarc handle the other day. Tarc (talk) 22:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

"non"?

I suspect you meant "trivial" in this edit.—Kww(talk) 16:19, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Yea, brain freeze, thx. Tarc (talk) 18:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Broken link on your user page

The external link to Political Machine defaults to their main page now for some reason. Alzarian16 (talk) 13:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Updated to the actual page, thanks. :) Tarc (talk) 13:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of fictional magic users

Hi again Tarc!

User:Freakshownerd is not me.

Also, User:Yohann4, which is suspected of being me, is not me.

I hate current music - totally hate it. But I absolutely love the new album Release Me by The Like. It's fun, cheesy, and retro. They don't make music like this anymore - except now they do!

72.95.242.173 (talk) 06:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Well this is interesting. This User contributions shows that I now have the same dynamic IP address that I had a month ago. Please don't revert the edits that I made a while ago to Loverboy, as they are non-political and non-controversial. The old edit to Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama is also me. That being said, the edits to Socialized medicine and Health maintenance organization from two years ago are not me. 72.95.242.173 (talk) 06:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Email

Climate change case

Just a note to say I've collapsed the Scjessy discussion thread, please don't add anything more to it. Thanks. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Dougweller (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

uncivil rant

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

According to this stop your uncivil rant.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

If you actually bothered to read what you linked to, darlin, you'd see that if you plan to make that the primary focus of a complaint against me, you'd likely fail. But if you and I were involved in some acrimony here, were parties to an Arbcom case, etc...then you would get some mileage by pointing to that as a mitigating factor. But as I am neither violating your privacy nor linking to an off-site forum myself (youdid that, though I'm sure one of your cronies, wikifan or malcolm schosha, brought this to your attention), you'd likely get much out of it in that scenario either. So please, run back and your wiki-semiretirement. I won't even declare my talk page off-limits to you, even though I have every right to now. If nothing else, you do provide teh lulz. :) Hugs & kisses! Tarc (talk) 16:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, you are mistaking about "wikifan or malcolm schosha". I do have account on Misplaced Pages review under my user name on Misplaced Pages. I've never posted there anything, but I do look at it sometimes, and sometimes I google on "Wikipediareview" and "Mbz1". It was how I found your rant last night. BTW I believe that even you should understand that no matter what I or anybody else saying about you, it is your own writings that demonstrate your extreme rudeness and stupidity because as my favorite philosopher Eric Hoffer said: “Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength”. Please do think about this, and have a nice day.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Ho-hum. As I said above, what I am disgusted/amused by is you and your ilk using this project to continue your ideological battles. I'm rude? Yes, I am. But at least my rudeness isn't masked in deception and agenda-driven, partisan bullshit, like yours is. Enjoy your retirement; we're better off for it. Tarc (talk) 16:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Your another rant deserves another quote “A half-truth is the most cowardly of lies”. My so called "agenda-driven, partisan bullshit" in your definition constitutes to .0005% of my total contributions, and even those have nothing to do with "agenda-driven, partisan bullshit". Please have a nice day.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

That Wagner article was a disgrace to the project, and merely the most recent example. This is all you and the others do nowadays, discereetly push the pro-Israel/anti-Palestine POV around the edges of the topic area, since your "side" has been slapped down numerous times at Arbcom and elsewhere when trying to do it directly. ".0005%"? Lulz. At the end of the day, you're just a Zeq (talk · contribs) with much better English skills. Tarc (talk) 17:14, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Edward Said/President Obama's education

I responded to you here. Thanks for your comment. Swliv (talk) 20:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Again I've responded to you there, puzzled this time. Swliv (talk) 18:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:AN/I

Re: your removal of Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#A_eulogy_for_the_Wikipedia_that_is_no_more. My posting there is directly relevant to the thread in which it is contained. PLENTY of other people have posted similar comments throughout the thread. If you're going to delete my post, at least have the common decency to cleanse the entire thread of comments regarding protection in abstract. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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re: meta-ownership

I don't think Stevertigo was -really- claiming entitlement to wider latitude than others. I saw remarks like "you're using one of my shortcuts, BTW" as rhetorical flourishes not intended to convey anything of real weight. At least I hope Stevertigo is not deluded enough to have meant anything of substance by that remark. Anything is possible, though, I suppose. 67.122.209.115 (talk) 01:59, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't think he's having literal delusions of Jimbo, no, but he gets in these little digs quite often about how long he's been around, what he had a hand in creating, etc... Tarc (talk) 12:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

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Request

• As you are an editor who had participated here, could you please state/explain your level of "involvement" (if any)? I'd appreciate it if you could provide a response (or a copy of it) here. Thank you, Ncmvocalist (talk) 10:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Christine O'Donnell, RfC

Just to let you know that I filed one of these after providing summary discussion on the talk page, and a description of the dispute. --Regards --KeptSouth (talk) 11:21, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Lulz

I wonder where the "African Safari" is? -- Scjessey (talk) 21:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Maybe that's where JFK and Elvis are hiding out, guarding the Kenyan birth certificate. Tarc (talk) 21:43, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Shooting the breeze with Richard Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan, Shergar, Amelia Earhart and Jimmy Hoffa, no doubt. -- Scjessey (talk) 21:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

speedies

I declined your speedies on the Palestine articles--see for the rationale. I'm sure you disagree, so it can be discussed either at AfD or at ani. DGG ( talk ) 00:52, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Any suggestions on meat puppetry?

There is some odd editing going on in a few articles, which I've tried to capture in an SPI at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Curvesall. Nothing seems to be happening there, so do you have any suggestions on what course to take, specifically, is this is better handled in an ANI? Thanks. --Noleander (talk) 17:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Dunno if there's anything else I can add, it's pretty clear that it's a coordinated assault from outside. Tarc (talk) 19:41, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

re:Nirvana discography

Hey just giving a headsup that I started a conversation on the talk page pertaining to splitting up the albums. My preference is to split things, but I wasn't about to cause a ruckus if there was a strong consensus to keep things as is... although it would be "nice" to keep Nirvana looking like all of the other discographies in Misplaced Pages. Comment there... I didn't get much of a response before, perhaps a different consensus could be reached? - eo (talk) 12:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tarc!!

You said, "we should all chip in and get him a Netflix membership so he can find some more usable usernames. Seems like it's been a cavalcade of IPs for awhile now."

No, I haven't run out of ideas for usernames. The reason that I've been using IPs is because recently, every time I had a user name that was at least 4 days old (the minimal requirement for editing semi-protected articles) the account had already been blocked before I ever got a chance to use it. It happened with about 15 or so accounts. I think someone wrote a script to block them before I get a chance to use them. 71.182.212.229 (talk) 03:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Not a script, no, you just lack the ability to be outright deceptive, IMO. "Gyps Fulvus" is about to be shown the door, though... Tarc (talk) 03:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, even if I did run out of movie, music, and video game references, there are millions of latin names of plant and animal species! 72.95.232.213 (talk) 03:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Semper ubi, sub ubi? Tarc (talk) 13:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm a Fruit of the Loom man myself. My new account name, Romney Wordsworth, is a character from The Obsolete Man. If you read the plot summary at the link, you'll understand why I relate to his character. Romney Wordsworth (talk) 17:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Gerardo Puisseaux

Deprodding of Gerardo Puisseaux

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Gerardo Puisseaux, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion. Thanks!VERTott 13:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Making more than one appearance doing the same flipping thing is still "one event"; that is all the guy is known for, and his proverbial 15 minutes petered out a long time ago. At least you provided a reason for de-prodding, which is better than 98% of the others out there. I'll consider an AfD in a few, yea. Tarc (talk) 13:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

On the other hand...your account has existed for all of 3 days and you're already this knee-deep in a de-prod spree? Hrm... Tarc (talk) 13:28, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Candidate deletes

First, there's a difference between a merge and a delete, and you are simply deleting. Second, you're well aware there is only a week before the election and there's no compelling reason to rush through articles at this point in time, other than rabid partisanship. If the issues couldn't be resolved a month ago, they can wait one more week. There's simply not time to do proper merges at this point, and I am not going to let you make Misplaced Pages yet more fodder for bloggers claiming we don't play fair. Flatterworld (talk) 14:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Um, there's a difference between a redirect and a delete; all the info is there in the history for when/if the person ever does satisfy WP:N. As for partisanship, I redirected Republican, Democratic, and Green candidates alike. There's also really nothing to merge; we're not going to retain biographical info, stances on issues, etc...for candidates that lose an election. Finally, I left alone any article where the person was notable for other things (e.g. notable businessman, mayor, state congress). So please, chill, esp if you plan to claim that I "deleted" things, because that is quite incorrect. Tarc (talk) 14:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Wrong answer. For example, the Douglas Herbert article was created in June, and there was more than enough time to nominate it for a merge. (If I had caught it, I would have.) We don't wait until a week before the elections to do a mass purge. I repeat: you are NOT going to make Misplaced Pages a laughingstock. Flatterworld (talk) 14:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

And you're not going to use the project for your personal campaign flier, sport. Tarc (talk) 14:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

See Freeze request and skip the personal attacks. If you had bothered to check my contributions, you wouldn't be making such a ridiculous accusation such as 'use the project for your personal campaign flier'. I've put too much time and effort into making Misplaced Pages the go-to source for election and candidate articles to let you destroy Misplaced Pages's reputation, articles and volunteer efforts. Flatterworld (talk) 15:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Scott M. Sipprelle (2nd nomination)

Unfortunately the ANI situation and the associated AfDs have been an extremely messy affair and frankly I'm getting fed up of the various accusations of bad faith being thrown around, especially in relation to your AfD nominations, but I do think it has become clear in this instance that the subject meets the general notability guideline and should be kept; therefore I'd ask that you withdraw the nomination and allow the AfD to be closed. I'm going to be avoiding this area now, since it seems to involve more teeth and nails than words, now. GiftigerWunsch 21:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Personally, if tarc withdrew the noms and agreed to stop disrupting wikipedia on this point by sending in new AFDs/PRODS/REdirects/etc until after the election, then I would be happy to let the issue die. I had decided that there was no demonstratable need to push for a weeklong ban and that it was simply too WP:CREEPy and withdrew my support from Flatter's proposal. It was only after you (Tarc) decided to try to force the issue via AFDs that I've re-instated my opposition. With any major party politician for Senator/Representative/Governor, you will be able to find sources to prove GNG. It's just a matter of doing so.---Balloonman 23:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

@Mr. Balloon, I do not value your opinion in the slightest. Withdraw yourself from my talk page. Now.

@Giftiger wunsch, I still see the coverage as trivial, and note there's now one other call for delete, so might as well let it run its course. I'm off for a bit now, but I'll see later on if there's others to bring to AfD, since some of these "keep everything!" characters seem to be set in granite. Tarc (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

It is a shame that there are a lot of emotive "keeps!" so far on some of these, especially ones that so blatantly contradict the notability guidelines, i.e. the Nintendo guy. We'll see how they all go, I'm done for now unless Flatterworld decides to revert some more. Tarc (talk) 13:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Fitzgerald

I collapsed it because the discussion about a userfied version of the article is tangential to the DRV. We are merely trying to determine of the deletion discussion in April 2009 was closed properly, reflecting consensus of that discussion. Whether she is notable or not is a separate issue and not part of DRV. Nevertheless, if you still feel differently, please feel free to uncollapse again; I'm not edit-warring about it. It clouds the issue and the purpose of DRV, but if you feel differently, that's OK with me too.  Frank  |  talk  15:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd think that if we're talking about possible versions to restore, than it gets kind of entwined with the DRV, but I'm not gonna get too worked up over it either, and will just leave my edit-conflicted-at-the-time reply within the box. Tarc (talk) 15:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

If it winds up being restored, it will have to be to the version prior to the original deletion, not the recent A4-deleted version, which violates BLP policy with respect to at least two people, in addition to many other problems already noted at Talk:George H. W. Bush. Yes, I am the one who noted those problems; yes, I am the one beating the drum against this the loudest, but this is clear cut to me. If it's restored, we'll likely have another deletion discussion.  Frank  |  talk  15:17, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

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Apology

I guess the community disagrees with me, thus I will apologize. I do think your timing and approach could have been better. If you had waited an hour or two to let the discussion at ANI die down, nobody would have questioned your actions. It was coming and usurping the discussion by sending articles to AFD that has people questioning your actions. (nobody challenges OrangeMike's doing the exact same thing) Anyways, I still think it does no harm to wait a week, but it may do harm to rush the AFD's (would you want a big AFD tag on your article questioning your notability the week before an election?) But that is neither here nor there. Again, my apologies.---Balloonman 07:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

That's the point though; I don't care about that angle of this, an encyclopedia is not a stop along the voter information trail. This is why I routinely oppose many, many, many articles at AfD on WP:BLP1E, WP:RECENTISM, and WP:NOTNEWS grounds. I'm surprised that given the recent news hoo-ha that there isn't an article attempt for Hiccup girl again. I want people here to write for history, not for TMZ or HuffPo. Tarc (talk) 14:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Facepalm I spoke too soon; capital-G Hiccup Girl. Tarc (talk) 16:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Angie Simms

I didn't make the edit to add the name, but Angie Simms is the "grandchild" in the "Really Bad Grandpa" skit. Nocarsgo (talk) 16:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Thick skin

The discussion is now archived, but to clarify after reading your comment at Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 November 2, I have pretty thick skin; I don't take any personal offense with the template, I simply feel that the wording is such that it may well simply spark further issues in controversial threads, especially if misused. I've withdrawn the nomination though since several users clearly find it useful and User:Thesevenseas made a valid point that it may actually have the opposite effect to what I feared; I'll hold my cynicism until there are actual issues with its usage. Just felt I should explain my view as you appeared to be getting the wrong idea about my comments on the template. Thanks. GiftigerWunsch 22:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Stephene Moore

"I don't know why the article is so important to her, but it must be very powerful or she wouldn't want to trash it so badly." (Glinda to Dorothy, paraphrased) Moore's still the 2010 nominee, and will always have that 'title'. I've seen boxes at the end of similar articles showing previous, current and subsequent nominees. Anyway, I restored the infobox and updated the rest of the article. We really do need better guidelines, starting with a full discussion now that the election's over. Flatterworld (talk) 19:44, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Suicide (song)

None of the details were matching up though. He clearly didn't write the song in '56, so even if he did record a song by that name the article as it stood was still a hoax. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 14:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Yea, I'm not much of a Beatlephile but I think that part is BS. Didn't know if there may be something like similar to a Floyd's List of unreleased Pink Floyd songs out there that may mention it. Tarc (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 18:41, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Icon of Evil

I see you were involved in a discussion of that source at Mohammad Amin al-Husayni. It has been now used as a source at Nazism to state some facts about al-Husayni. For now, I've just attributed them. Note that the editor who introduced the book as source at Nazism, User:WookieInHeat, is currently blocked for an unrelated incident (but still in the same IP area), so he cannot respond until tomorrow or so. Tijfo098 (talk) 20:22, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

AfD for Corruption in Pakistan

You may want to reconsider your position at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Corruption in Pakistan, since User:CMBJ has made significant improvements to the article. Guoguo12--Talk--  20:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

My position remains unchanged. Tarc (talk) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

As you wish. :) Guoguo12--Talk--  19:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

"Another name" for Legends of Kallisti / KallistiMUD?

Well, if you're Izzy, maybe you can tell me what this "guise of a different name" is, that's so coyly alluded to in the article but not actually specified. :) —chaos5023 (talk) 02:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Late 91/early 92 there was a Diku called SolMUD that lost its home and was looking to relocate. MGI (original admin) too his mostly stock server and merged it with Sol, becoming Kallisti...which at the time ran on a server otherwise dedicated to weather projects. It ran as this from Feb 92 to June, shutdown for the summer (vacation and all that, then came back in the Fall for good, full-time. It ran as such til about 1995 when it was shutdown for good. A few admins took the code (with MGI's blessing), rebranded it ErisMUD and opened in 1996. For various reasons, it was an unmitigated disaster, and shutdown about 2 yrs later, only to pop up again as Legends of Kallisti, run by me and Sammy-boy. Few years later, we had a bit of a disagreement (I thought he was a worthless prick, and for some odd reason he disagreed), so I took a copy and with Shinji's funding, ran it as EKD Mud (E for Eris, K for Kallisti, and I can't for the life of me remember what the D stood for, maybe just Diku) for a short time. I dunno, basically lost interest after a bit, turned it over to others and it eventually closed up around 2004 or so I believe. So there's the trip down Amnesia Lane, as they say. Tarc (talk) 03:04, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Cool story bro. :) Thanks, that tease in the article was killing me. —chaos5023 (talk) 03:16, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much

Thank you, for your positive comments about my work, in the deletion discussion for the article Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System at the AFD page Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System. Your comments are most appreciated. Thanks again, -- Cirt (talk) 21:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

AfDs

Hi. As you just participated in discussions on a closely related topic (also a current AfD re a Jewish list), which may raise some of the same issues, I'm simply mentioning that the following are currently ongoing: AfDs re lists of Jewish Nobel laureates, entertainers, inventors, actors, cartoonists, and heavy metal musicians. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:41, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Poopy edit summaries

I'd suggest toning "your sense of proportion is...poop, shall we say mildly" down quite a bit next time you get the urge to leave an edit summary like that. Thanks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:55, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

It was toned down. :) Tarc (talk) 17:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Anne Rice - Christian or Former Christian

Hi Tarc,

I don't want to buy into the editing disagreement that's happening with Anne Rice, but my reading of the last paragraphs of Anne Rice#Exit from organized religion indicates to me that she still considers herself a Christian, just not a member of a formal church. The relevant page on her website Anne's Profession of Faith (Already cited in the article) includes the text "I am a believer in every word of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John."

Regards Kiore (talk) 19:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Yea, that makes sense. I don't think the "converts from atheism to Christianity" category fits....I guess she technically did, but with the joining and leaving of the Church in the middle, it'd seem like an odd categorization. Tarc (talk) 20:05, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I read it as she converted to Christianity, joined & left the Catholic church while remaining Christian, so the converts from Atheism does work, as would a hypothetical Apostates from Atheism :) I've had a bit of a look around & I can't find an existing category that works. Either Non-denominational Christians, or Independent Christians could apply, but don't seem to exist Non-denominational Christianity does exist, but seems to mostly cover groups while Rice doesn't seem to belong to any group. Sorry for not being much use on this Kiore (talk) 10:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

porn bios

whats the deal with all these porn bios? half of them looked likt they are entirely made up, and when you try to look through their sources most of them are blogs and industry websites -- not exacly WP:RSs for any other subject. i think that you are right to target some of these with WP:AFD as they dont seem to even attempt to meet any acceptable threshold of notability and contain numerous sources that would not pass muster in any other article series. User:Smith Jones 19:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Likely that the WikiPorn Project contains industry insiders who are using the Misplaced Pages as an advertising vehicle. Look at the Misplaced Pages Commons sometime, it is full of uploaded porn shots. Tarc (talk) 19:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

lol, i think ill pass on that! Im not morally opposted to having any articles on porn actors on Wikiepdia. like as i said on the latest WP:AFD, the Jenna Jameson article is a good idea because she has established notability and a long string of sources in the ainstream media. however, the bulk of these articles that ive seen are basically just excuses to post pics of scantily clad women standing awkwardly in front of grimy porn sets. nearly all of them claim to have somehting called an AVN AWARD which i assume is like the porn version of the Grammys, and they bulk of the article is either links to interviews with them or just random lists of porn movies. they're not quite as blatant as just having a link to order the movies online or anything, but its pretty clearly an advertising vehicle and provides no added value to the Wiki. User:Smith Jones 19:21, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not opposed either; I am opposed to non-notable swill that plagues the Misplaced Pages in general, and people such as these whose life mission is to retain the crap by whatever means possible. Tarc (talk) 13:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

You suck balls, Tarc.--Milowent • 15:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Are you offering up yours for a taste test? Tarc (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I see an attempted revert got swallowed (pun intended) up in the edit conflict, but I think we'll preserve your witticism anyways...that's the perk of this being my talk page and all. If there's any admins lurking about though, I seek no action on NPA grounds. It amuses me. Tarc (talk) 15:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

im surprised that an establish user would be chilidish enough to say something like that. User:Smith Jones 16:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

"You suck balls" what a rubbish insult. I have also presumed that there are active promotional writers working for the AVN people. Off2riorob (talk) 16:49, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

It's ok, I did take a general swipe at the general ARS philosophy there, to which his was a response. My skin is remarkably thick. :) Tarc (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes a think skin is needed round here and better than firing back or making a report.. This current, interesting case is related to the porn and paid editing, Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Benjiboi - Off2riorob (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• "taste test". lol. i did decide to revert it right after i posted it, knowing you would probably put it back anyway, but since nazis weren't mentioned i figured we'd all survive. -- to actually address the topic i intruded on, of course there are porn operative making edits on wikipedia, just like every other interested group does, but the porn peddlers are probably more effective at it. As for Rachel Roxxx (not much different than Crissy Moran, although the latter has a better case for notability), those articles are hugely popular if you check their views. That's why the pages exist.--Milowent • 18:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

This also looks to me like a related returning experienced contributor. Off2riorob (talk) 18:49, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Update - User:Pranking Member was a puppet of the LGBT sock master Otto4711 and was indefinitely blocked yesterday. - Off2riorob (talk) 13:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

regarding Crissy Moran; that article is much more substantive as far as content goes than Rachel Roxx which has maybe 10 lines of ecnyclopedic content. my problem isnt that there are porn editors on Misplaced Pages -- everyone has tehir niche and there is nothing inherently wron with editing exclusivel in that section if you have extra special knowledge or interest in pornography but my problem is that it seems like literally every single prson who has ever appeared in a porno has an article that basically says "X is an pornographic actress. X was nominated 3 times for an AVN award. Here is a list of movies that X has been in. Here is a picture of X standing around at some studio.". There are plenty of mainstream actor articles that has been deleted for being about that weak. User:Smith Jones 20:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Colonel Warden RFC/U

FYI - A request for comments has been started on User:Colonel Warden. Since you participated in this ANI thread which preceded this RfC/U, you might be interested in participating. If so, please see Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Colonel Warden. Thanks. SnottyWong  01:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

mail received

Hey, man, I received your email to come on here. I don't really understand what you want me to do about that RFCU thing though. I can look into it but I can't really make promises. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomtube (talk • contribs) 01:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Yea. Nice try bro, I didn't mail anyone about anything. You need to flesh out your cover story, hit that right note of believability/sincerity while casting doubts on me a bit more if you wanna pull off a successful false flag op. It takes skillz, which it is painfully obvious that you do not have. Tarc (talk) 01:28, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

too funny; wonder which one that is... Cheers, Jack Merridew 02:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I'd guess one of our dearly departed, i.e. an A Nobody or I/Okip. Tarc (talk) 03:18, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm sad to inform you that the above user actually was Smith Jones.--William S. Saturn (talk) 06:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Just goes to show that the Misplaced Pages really is more like an MMORPG than an encyclopedia project. Interesting. Tarc (talk) 14:27, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

it makes me sick

it makes me sick that you wer treated this way, Tarc. while this guys attept at getting you in toruble was clumsy and crude, a less experienced user might not have known what to do and ended up falling into whatever the Heck this guy wants trying to do. could this be related to your stance on the wp:porn bio afds?? User:Smith Jones 04:20, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm like the Richard J. Daley of the Misplaced Pages, the list of those I've pissed off over the years is lengthy;

• pro-Zionists
• anti-Obama fanatics
• ARS/inclusionists
• ChildofMidnight
• Joehazelton
• Porn article proponents
• Virgin Killer album cover haters
• Mohammed image removers

I get around... I bet is on a disgruntled #3 or #4 this time around though.Tarc (talk) 05:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• lol, no one could have fallen for that "proof" of canvassing, i would think it was a joke but you never know.--Milowent • 05:55, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
• So should we start referring to you as "Hizzhonor"? - Burpelson AFB ✈ 14:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
• its not the incomeptence of the attack that matters, but the sheer reprehsnbility of it. I feel as if the users name should be blocked from recretaion and all edits he made to any articles shoul dbe reviewed by the ArbCom or by an administrators in case of any other subverison User:Smith Jones 00:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Nirvana's Genre

Can you tell me of where that comes this rule?. Is to learn more. Greetings. JGabriel ar (talk) 04:33, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Not sure offhand, but simple common sense will suffice as well. If it is limited to s neutral ordering like simple alphabetization, then that will lead to less "so-and-so is more known for genre X rather than genre Y" squabbling. Tarc (talk) 14:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I think it's going in the order of the genre that matters most. In this case, Nirvana has only two, but there are bands that have many genres, and it would be wrong, people would think that the first genre is the most important of the band. I've always seen and have known that going in the order of the genre that matters most. Look at these examples: Metallica, Green Day, Oasis, Led Zeppelin. Greetings JGabriel ar (talk) 15:04, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

General practice is actually to list overarching genres first, followed by subgenres. Hence alternative rock, then grunge. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

And that is why you have wankers involved in never-ending genre wars. Tarc (talk) 14:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Rachel Roxxx

looks like another one bites the dust!!! User:Smith Jones 01:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Yea, the one-hand-on-the-keyboard warriors win again... Tarc (talk) 05:08, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I used to be an idealistic thinker, now I am a pragmatic thinker.--William S. Saturn (talk) 06:21, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Mathewignash

The same types of sources that you have been told over and over and over and (do we sense a pattern?) over again are not sufficient for establishing notability. Seriously, how many AfDs have we been through now where your links to toy guides and fan forums have been utterly rejected by the Misplaced Pages community?

— You, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Overdrive (Transformers)

Perhaps if one can find a list of times that Ignash's sources have been rejected, we can open a Request for comment. Perhaps I should ask on the Transformers WikiProject talk page? NotARealWord (talk) 18:17, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Yea, just look thru his contribs to AfDs, its pretty much the same WP:IDHT song and dance every time. Tarc (talk) 20:21, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, an RfC requires proof that multiple users have advised him against that, so I'm gonna need the diifs for other users to, relating to this. NotARealWord (talk) 20:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Adding sources from legitimate books are no crime as far as I know, and some times an article is salvaged by adding proper sources, so as long as I have the opportunity to add sources, and then people can freely vote in the nomination for deletion, I don't see there being any harm or disruption done. I don't even write new articles any more, I just add sources to the existing ones so they have a chance to survive if they warrant it. Anyways, I hope simply expressing an opinion on a nomination isn't hurting anyone. Mathewignash (talk) 22:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I think an RfC would be over the top. I don't agree with Mathew Ignash's interpretation of what sources establish notability any more than you do; but there is nothing wrong with having a differing opinion, or even stubbornly clinging to it in the face of strong opposition. Unless he's trying to mislead people or disrupt anything, I think MI can be as wrong as he likes as loudly as he likes. Reyk _YO! 06:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Flying f-ing spaghetti monster

Please don't make edit summaries that require me to revdelete them. Somebody who is religious who sees that may take it as a very severe insult. There is no need. Okay, thanks. Jehochman 14:33, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

If someone says to another editor "you're a fucking moron", sure, I'd agree. But in the way I used it ("jesus fucking christ"), deleting that is a bit Puritan. Tarc (talk) 14:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Uh, which revdel criterion does "jesus fucking christ" fall under? GiftigerWunsch 14:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Grossly insulting WP:RD2. Also WP:RD3, purely disruptive. Jehochman 01:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

I think you're being a bit drama queeny about this, esp with the "OMG Christians R insulted!" angle, but whatever. Tarc (talk) 02:20, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind

I moved your reply to me to the place I think you meant it to be in the DrV on Scientology deaths. Feel free to move it back if I messed with your original intent. Hobit (talk) 01:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

CoM

It's a bit unseemly to dance on his grave. Best, and HNY, PhGustaf (talk) 06:44, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

He dug his own grave, I'm a regular tap-dancing Fred Astaire. Tarc (talk) 07:14, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for making my point

Misplaced Pages really needs a mechanism to deal with its biggest problem right now: the metastasized rulebook, which has become so bloated that any Wiki-DungeonMaster can quote his pick of 17 different rules to delete a post he doesn't like - never acknowledging the real reason, which is usually WP:spite or WP:pique. Don't worry, I won't go reverting or trying to access the ultra-Byzantine arbitration mechanism (I had a laugh reading the stilted pseudo-legalese in the pages relating the trial of William Connolly). Enjoy your little preserve. People like you have successfully purged Misplaced Pages of people like me.Greenbough (talk) 16:03, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy New year and Vive le Québec libre to you as well. ;) Tarc (talk) 17:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

You may be amused to see that WP:PIQUE is a bluelink. Fences&Windows 20:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Bwaaahahahahahaha

Enjoy. Reyk _YO! 22:05, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

A rather odd choice of targets; we've intersected here and there but to my knowledge I never have with this Pieter Kuiper. Tarc (talk) 22:11, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, yes, that.

Shame you didn't see the SPI I opened. As far as I'm concerned, you two and User:Dream Focus are the same person. Ego sum a atrum militis (talk) 16:59, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

You two who? Myself and Reyk? Tarc (talk) 17:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Ted Williams (announcer) AfD

Sorry about the outcome. I was considering nominating it myself, before I noticed you had already done so, and I'm a little surprised the discussion turned out the way it did. It seems a little premature to proclaim this guy an internet legend after what, 24-36 hours? I'm not sure anyone will remember him in a month, but we'll see. Great voice, though. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:54, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Hyper-inclusionism does eke out a victory once in awhile, when they're able to bloc-vote so swiftly. I find Wikidemon's vote to be especially amusing/hypocritical, since he routinely snips breaking-news-style edits out of Barack Obama articles citing the fact that we need to not write for the moment but wait for the future to judge...yet some random hobo gets youtube'ed, a few media outlets talk about it during the 24/7 cable news cycle and its OMG we have to keep it NOW NOW NOW. I think I shall go vomit in my own mouth now. Tarc (talk) 14:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

"Fraudulent"?

Care to rethink this? --John (talk) 03:56, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Since that was 3 days ago, I'm not really sure what you're hoping to accomplish so far after the fact. Tarc (talk) 15:34, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, it was fucking rude for starters. Care to apologize? That would be a start. --John (talk) 20:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I have a fundamental opposition to "this story was all over the news" as a rationale to create an article; there should be a far greater adherence to WP:NOTNEWS, rather than just slurping up every headline-of-the-hour and making it into an article. The calls to keep were, frankly, worthless. Tarc (talk) 22:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

And that's a reasonable view to hold, indeed it seems to have been the consensus one. It's possible to disagree with folks, even fundamentally, without explicitly accusing them of a crime however. --John (talk) 23:26, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, don't be so literal. :) Tarc (talk) 23:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

It's a very literal medium we are in here. If you meant your comment in some sort of joking way, it wasn't clear from reading the diff above. At best, this sort of thing looks hyperbolic, shades of Godwin's Law perhaps. At worst you piss people off. --John (talk) 23:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)