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Talk:Susan B. Anthony

Should this article serve as a rebuttal to pro-life activists who use Susan B. Anthony's words and images to aid their anti-abortion causes? Binksternet (talk) 03:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Red Terror (Spain)

Does this article appear neutral, or twisted with a POV? it is heavily dependent on Stanley payne a pro-franco scholar , and right wing catholic sources, who is franzen, is a german article a legitimate cite in any case for the english wiki. Look at the lead with its special pleading. I know Beevor wrote a chapter called Red Terror - but is there even generally accepted academic agreement on this title - was there a period known as The Red Terror, like The Great Fear in France at the time of the Revolution or The Terror of Robespierre ,or is it mainly a term used by pro-Franco historians? Sayerslle (talk) 01:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Bronx

Please see (or re-read) all of the comments above beginning at #Earlier discussions of the name. Someone else may already have expressed your immediate thoughts, or contradicted them, with more force or better sources.

The name of this article was "The Bronx" for several years. A proposal in 2008 to rename it "Bronx" failed for lack of consensus (see above). However, a revived proposal in April-May of this year (2010) was resolved by changing the article's name to its present one of "Bronx" (also see above).

Some editors think that the May 2010 discussion was closed hastily or improperly, and wish to reopen the question now. Only one editor so far has objected to doing so.

Below are spaces for

• continuing the general discussion;
• comments in favor of retaining the present title (Bronx);
• comments in favor of restoring the title to The Bronx;
• comments in favor changing the title to another name, e.g. Bronx, New York
• other comments

Please precede your comment with a # and sign it with four tildes, ~~~~.

—— Shakescene (talk) 17:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Gaza flotilla raid

There is an ongoing discussion regarding the Iara Lee's quotation at the very end of this section. Is Lee, a photographer and human rights activist, the best source for determining the motives of the Israeli commandos on the Mavi Marmara? When she's quoted as saying, simply, " came to kill," is enough of the original quotation preserved for it to mean anything? Saepe Fidelis (talk) 04:42, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:United Nations Security Council Resolution 242

Is my proposed edit synthesis? Is it not verifiable? I'm having trouble understanding objections on the basis that it is "original research". So I would appreciate it if others would review and comment and help us out here. If anyone requires specific quotes from the sources to support any statements therein, I'd be happy to provide them upon request. See details below. JRHammond (talk) 13:25, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Treaties of Bautzen and Merseburg

I wrote this article as a compound article about the five treaties of Bautzen and Merseburg, because

• they are all concerned with the same subject (investment with the Lusatian marches of the HRE and legal relation between the emperor and the Piasts)
• they were all concluded within a short period (1002-1033) between the same parties (emperor and Piasts, though each party had a succession in the 1020s)
• each mentioned treaty is the background for the respective following treaty (except for the last one, naturally), so separate articles would need to overlap extensively
• as of now, each treaty section on its own would only be a stub-size article, while the compound article is at about 17 kB

When I finished writing this article, I redirected an unsourced stub, tagged as such since 2009 and concerned with one of these treaties (Bautzen 1018) here .

Radeksz (talk · contribs) now split this article in two parts:

• the part of this article covering Merseburg (1002), Merseburg (1013) and Bautzen (1018) he moved to Peace of Bautzen
• the part of this article covering Merseburg (1031) and Bautzen (1033), he moved to Treaty of Merseburg

I disagree with this split. Both articles are concerned with treaties of Merseburg and Bautzen, and the arguments above point to keeping all five treaties in one article. Skäpperöd (talk) 07:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:1953 Iranian coup d'état

How many instances of the descriptive phrase "democratically elected" should appear in the article? Binksternet (talk) 23:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Controversies surrounding Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

It is a simple truism that even the NYTimes, can be wrong sometimes (which obviously results in other media & leaders of the world to quoting it). In such cases we will find a conflicting sources, and, according to wikipedia, should evaluate those. This is exactly the case here. There are conflicting reliable sources (one is based USA - Iran's enemy state, the other is identified with the Arab countries). I think that it is quite obvious that the translation was, as demonstrated by the second source, mis-leading & assumptious, especially since it focused entirely on that quote & included the full speech. I'm only seeking the truth, and i insist not to ignore reliable sources. If there is a story here - it should be the story of false accusation and mis-translation. It's quite apparent for those who read the facts Eyalmc (talk) 05:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Controversies surrounding Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Can you classify a quote as a holocaust denial, even though it is not interpreted as such in the sources? Eyalmc (talk) 21:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Mobile, Alabama

Under the Sister cities section, a user at 24.23.198.90 is changing the flag icon for the West Bank Israeli settlement of Ariel from the Israeli flag to the Palestinian flag:

 Ariel, West Bank (Israeli settlement)

to:

 Ariel, West Bank (Israeli settlement)

My reasoning for why the Israeli flag is used here is that the settlement is populated by Israelis and is governed by Israel. The anon user's position seems to be that since it is in the Palestinian territories the Palestinian National Authority flag should be used. Comments? Altairisfar 14:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Indian Rebellion of 1857

I created a template recently called Template:Anglo-Indian Wars (later renamed to Template:Indian freedom struggle) to link the various events and movements leading to the Indian independence. Specifically I linked various wars such as the First Anglo-Maratha War, Second Anglo-Maratha War, Third Anglo-Maratha War, First Anglo-Sikh War, Second Anglo-Sikh War, Indian independence movement, Indian rebellion of 1857, the four Anglo-Mysore Wars, etc. The template is a mere chronological linkage of events/movements with similar objectives. It looks like: Template:Anglo-Indian Wars Some users are calling this template non-NPOV/OR. I'm requesting comments to sort the matter out. Relevant discussions are at Talk:Indian_Rebellion_of_1857#.27Indian_freedom_struggle.27 and Template_talk:Anglo-Indian_Wars. Thanks Zuggernaut (talk) 20:02, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Greeks

Can Miranda Vickers and her study on the Greek minority of Albania be considered a reliable source? .I would expect only editors from outside the Balkans to be involved with their comments. --Sulmues 19:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Template talk:The Holocaust

Template:The Holocaust is way to long for most articles. It creates gaps in layout and pushes everything else on the right side down to the bottom. I offer you an alternative with collapsible subsections and a captivating image. Please don't get alarmed by the revisions made before the consensus could be reached in talk, because the only way to assess the new version is by testing it. Feedback is much appreciated. Try not to shut our discussion down by reverting me without first drawing attention of the community to the proposed new layout. -- Milhist74 (talk) 15:58, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Forrest River massacre

This article contains a section (2536 words) detailing the research of journalist Rod Moran. His self-published research is often cited by historian Keith Windschuttle as part of the History wars debate. Is it appropriate to reduce this section to a summary of his views? Wayne (talk) 08:59, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Category talk:Ethnic cleansing

The use of the term "ethnic cleansing" is in my view problematic, as it is a) a euphemism and b) used retrospectively. Opinions? 红卫兵 19:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Turfan

Dispute over whether to name this article Turpan or Turfan; please offer suggestions (rather than votes) on how to proceed. Refer to the discussion in the above two sections. rʨanaɢ (talk) 19:01, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Historicity of Jesus/Archive 27

When we use in-text attribution regarding a point about the historicity of Jesus, and the source is an ordained minister or similar, should we include that information in the attribution? For example, should we write: "New Testament scholar N.T. Wright, the Bishop of Durham, argues that ..."? SlimVirgin 16:54, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Qeparo

May we or may we not use the Greek version of the name in the article? What kind of sources do we have to use, in what number, for us to call them significant? What is significant? Mentioned or used? Snippets only are allowed? A travelogue qualifies as a good source regarding the villagers' ethnicity? Beserks (talk) 08:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Ebionites

This request is being filed to determine two things:

• 1) How much space the article should give to the theories of J. L. Teicher and Robert Eisenman, which link the Dead Sea Scrolls community to the Ebionites.
• 2) The external links, including particulary that to a non-notable neo-Ebionite group's page which says comparatively little, if anything, related to the current content of the article. John Carter (talk) 17:17, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

1. Reed Fred A.. Salonica Terminus: travels into the Balkan nightmare. Talonbooks, 1996 ISBN 9780889223684, p. 102: "Soon after leaving Himarë, the convoy made its first stop, in a mixed Greek-Albanian village called Qeparo nestled in a narrow valley. The chicken distribution was orderly..."