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Speaking to my sock

Hi my second me. It seems that either you are my sock or I am according to Guildenrich. Although I have repeatedly ask him to go for a check or to stop accusing, he insisting spreading the rumour around (per Goebels: "accusing accusing something is always remain"). Recently he did it again with Ironholds. To me actions must taken. Will you do it or I will? --Factuarius (talk) 09:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

"Suppose" Fut? --Factuarius (talk) 09:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I am very annoyed learning that he accuse me of being your sock. Until today I was the master. I am going to post a protest for this unfair sadden change, directly to his talk page. Can you plz do it for me? --Factuarius (talk) 19:55, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Speaking to my 'master'

depressing, but take an advice: Try for a change to be a little wiser, Ι wasn't arrogant when a few hours before you were my tail and that's an evidence about who could be the real 'master'. Life is full of surprises Alexikoua and tomorrow is a new day, he may change again his mind, and then you might be able to answer by yourself to the question.. --Factuarius (talk) 22:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, the book says that many Albanians trace their roots, not that Albanians are actually descendants of Achilles, the gay lover of Patroclus. Please, let's discuss this at the talk-page. Guildenrich (talk) 23:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Sarandioti, banned (21:50, 28 September 2009) after voting (21:11, 17 July 2009). Vote stays. Guildenrich (talk) 14:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Epirus Map

The map found on the Epirus (region) is clearly original research. This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/File:EpirusEduMap.jpg being created as synthesis of several cherry picked sources is clearly against policies. Just as well, one can cherry pick eight other academic sources from another point of view and then show it as fact. Azalea pomp (talk) 22:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I posted a response on the Epirus region page. Azalea pomp (talk) 00:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I posted some more responses on the Epirus region talk page. Azalea pomp (talk) 19:57, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Some more comments again on the Epirus page. My main purpose for the Epirus page it so assure that we are accurately using the sources for the maps. I want them to be correct and thank you for your work on fixing the Mycenaean dot map. What is interesting is that the Greeks, Macedonians, Albanians, Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians, Phrygians, Paeonians, Bryges are all Indo-European anyway, but still I think that since we are dealing with very specific groups and many of which are little known, we just can't blanket terms like Thracian on tribes just because we may think they are related. We have to use the academic sources and what the scholars have. Whatever personal views or theories we have, we should not include those. Azalea pomp (talk) 21:51, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks the new map of Mycenaean sites looks nice. Azalea pomp (talk) 03:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Xenos2008

See --Anothroskon (talk) 17:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Himariote Greek dialect

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Καλά Χριστούγεννα!

...although there was no need for conratulations I thank you for the thumbs up and wish a Merry Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones. Να 'χεις καλές γιορτές φίλε μου, με υγεία, αγάπη ευτυχία και προσωπική πλησμονή.--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 21:31, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Turks of Western Thrace

Hi Alexikoua, what do you mean by 'a number given by the same minority'? This reference was published in 2009 and thus probably the most recent publication of any estimated figures of the Turkish minority.Thetruthonly (talk) 16:13, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok I see what you mean. If you want we can change the wording e.g. write something alone the lines of 'according to the Turkish minority...' What do you think?Thetruthonly (talk) 16:33, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that.Thetruthonly (talk) 16:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi again Alexikoua, I was just wondering if you could help me. According to sources, the last Greek census which gave data on religious affiliation and mother tongue was in 1951. So would it be possible if you could help me find data from the 1951 census? Thetruthonly (talk) 11:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

...

I have not violated the three-revert rule so spare your threats. You can count to 3 I can count as well. --Gligan (talk) 23:26, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Elaia–Kalamas

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Thanks!

Thank you, Alexikoua! That was quite unexpected! I will try to continue my efforts! All best, --Tadija (talk) 09:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Join WikiProject NPOV

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Please pay attention

When are you going to stop already reverting everything I do. The map is wrong and the name is not applicable for the whole state and is not universally established. --Gligan (talk) 13:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

If I put "cn", there can always be found a citation for that (that is as if to write that Alexander of Macedon was an ethnic Macedonian and to tell you to put a citation needed note instead of reverting) which does not mean that the term is widely accepted. In fact, that is a 19th century invention in the style of what the Macedonians are doing now. Kaloyan was indeed sometimes called Emperor of Bulgarians and Vlachs and what? Was Bulgaria under Simeon Bulgaro-Roman Empire? That thing is completely inapplicable for the whole existence of the country and not universally accepted therefore it does not belong to the lead. It is already mentioned in a note. As for the map, that you brought back after you reverted me - 1) it is wrong 2)there are already plenty of maps in the article. You should not blindly revert my edits.

As for Kostja and Monshuai, I don't know what is their aim but after all the lead will be changed to what it is agreed in the discussion. I already advised Monshuai to put his ideas as a suggestion for the lead or to add them in one of the current suggestions. --Gligan (talk) 23:08, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem at all Alexikoua, but I believe it's time with Sulmues's participation to clear the article's issues as to remove these flags. I don't know if you and he, have the time but I believe, it's necessary. As you might seen, I asked him to open a talk there about that, as to facilitate a discussion which would help to close the issues. If he'll do it be our quest. --Factuarius (talk) 07:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I was here to drop a line to Alexikoua and I saw my name. What's exactly the issue, Factuarius? sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 14:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Funny, and where is the line? Are you sure that you are not following me all the way around? Anyway, this is not the right place to discuss the issue (in fact the issues) the Cham Albanians has connecting to the flag you want to remove. As I already told, you must open a discussion in that article's talk page as to discuss and correct any possible issue as to remove the flag you want. That's what is all about here. And don't forget to drop the line to Alexikoua. AND STOP FOLLOW ME EVERYWHERE !! thanks, --Factuarius (talk) 03:56, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

The line was already dropped below, on the Protocol of Corfu part 1 minute after I wrote to you, and I ain't following you, I really saw that you mentioned me and I had no clue what was it all about. Cham Albanians? Will do it at some time. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 22:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Protocol of Corfu talk page

Alexikoua I put a reference for your review there. Could you please take a look at it? sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 14:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

language

Please help me out improving the language of these small articles .Megistias (talk) 15:33, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Here too, when you have the time , Megistias (talk) 16:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

This is a new one Peresadyes Megistias (talk) 20:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Helping you

You may want to move Vasileios of Dryinoupolis as a notable figure from Libohova to Labova e Kryqit, by openinng a new article on Labova e Kryqit. I will help with that and we'll put the image of the 12th century church. Libohova is 100% muslim village, and even though they are close they are separate. Labova e Kryqit is a 100% Christian village. sulmues --Sulmues 15:39, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually they are further apart than what Boboshtica and Korca are between them, so if you removed Victor Eftimiu from Korca, then you should remove Vasil Papakristo from Libohova. sulmues --Sulmues 15:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Categorizing redirects

Do you know how to categorize redirects? Like those of Berat, - Antipatreia & Antipatrea. Megistias (talk) 18:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Could you please give your thoughts in the Ines Murzaku Angeli source?

I mentioned you here. --sulmues (talk) 15:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Skanderbeg

ObserverFromAbove, Sarandioti?--Ptolion (talk) 21:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Maniots

Hi, with all due respect, i think you over-reacted here, if the ip was a banned user every edit is eligible to reversion of course. But it wasn't vandalism and to be frank i think it's a better choice. I don't believe "Turko-Albanian" has a very established usage in this or in any other historical context, in English sources that is. It's descriptive meaning is more perplexed also, while we might know that it refers mostly to Albanian Muslims faithful to the Gate, a reader could also understand "a mixed group of Albanians and Turks", "a group of mixed Turkish-Albanian origin" or at least "partly Turkified Albanians", all could be true, depending on occasion and perspective, but do our sources in this issue and the interpretation we give to them based on NPOV allow any of these assertions ? Just my two cents.--Δρακόλακκος (talk) 19:14, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, i see we have a different starting point here, i always thought that "Turko-albanians" refers to Albanian Muslims primarily, maybe i'm mislead from the topic i have mostly encountered it, Epirus, where indeed in all the texts i've read the terms coincide. The whole issue for me is not so important, that's why i opted for a discussion here and not in the article's talk page. Just some notes on the sources you picked, the first one confirms the definition i know, it mentions that Ljapidhes (which were a group of Albanian Muslims) where known in the local narrative as "Turko-Albanians". The second source mentions "Turkalbanians" as a literary translation of the Greek "Tourkalvanoi", this one includes Turks as well to its meaning but it still places its use inside a Greek perspective, and we don't see any further use of the term that would imply an endorsement. That said, i've taken a quick look at the search results you linked to, although some quite old publications are included, it seems at least one recent source treats "Turko-Albanian" (or "Turco-Albanian") as referring to Muslims in general, although the whole context is not available in googlebooks to be 100% sure. I guess if we are not sure about the ethnicity of Ottoman troops in this issue "Turko-Albanians" covers all possibilities, although "Turk-Albanians" seems more proper English.--Δρακόλακκος (talk) 04:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Zakynthos Marine Park

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3RR

There is sometihng very fishy going on with the revert war by the IPs in the 79.106 range on Greek Orthodox Church, Vasil Bollano, Erseka, Gjin Bua Shpata, Pyrros Dimas, Ghica family, Ali Pasha. I'm looking into it, probably a group of meatpuppets recruited off-wiki, who collaborate with one or two named users. It looks very coordinated. Definitely very suspicious, and they are clearly trying to set up some sort of revert trap. Athenean (talk) 22:53, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

For the barnstar. It's nice to have one's contributions acknowledged. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 12:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Template

Hi, you posted a totally irrelevant template on my talkpage because I had explained on the article's talkpage why I removed that image and that was explained in my summary.--ZjarriRrethues (talk) 19:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Reported

You have been reported ]. --sulmues (talk) 17:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:AE

You have been mentioned at a thread on AE regarding Sulmues. Cheers, Athenean (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Reports

If no one has ever reported me then what is this?--— ZjarriRrethues —  10:43, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Panajot Pano

According to MOS you should remove from the lead paragraph any reference to his ethnicity and also his name in Greek characters. I also left a note in the talk page of the article. Thank you! --sulmues (talk) 17:19, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

League of Prizren

About that template you added when the article refers to Ioannina it talks about the Albanians who fought against the Greek Kingdom-incited revolt.--— ZjarriRrethues —  21:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I've asked for a source on that. That's why I added -cn- tag.Alexikoua (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Omonia split

it seems that anti-Bollano members left Omonia and created a new organization. When they become officially a party I think an article should be created.--— ZjarriRrethues —  17:06, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hatzimichalis Dalianis

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Gjirokaster Education

Thanks for your contribution in Gjirokaster. I made some changes, hope you're ok with them. --sulmues (talk) 02:20, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Comment

I suggest you don't make such comments because I know exactly what you said to DS to accuse me and your discussion with him justifies completely his warning towards you.--— ZjarriRrethues —  11:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

As I see you are misinforming Sandstein in Filiates this time. I suggest you avoid wikibullying.Alexikoua (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not "wikibullying" anyone, if you'd like and you agree we could ask DS to publicly post what you told him about me, and then we'll see if his warning towards you was correct or wrong.--— ZjarriRrethues —  15:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Misto Mame

Here's another one ethnic Greek I just wrote an article about. Can you please find any source in Greek for him? I want to know especially where he was born. --] (talk) 03:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

You might also want to check Qestorat and see if you can write an article about the Greek school there (Zographeion college). On a related note, I really appreciate you writing articles on the Epirus region, even though sometimes I don't agree with the content, I really appreciate people who take the initiative to write brand new articles. --sulmues talk contributions 16:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hatzimichalis Dalianis

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Question on Filiates

Could you please answer here? Thank you! --sulmues talk contributions 22:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Laiko Vima

thank you for your comment. Btw, i found the article highly interesting. --Soman (talk) 00:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Laiko Vima

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DYK for Pavlos Vrellis Greek History Museum

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Belthandros and Chrysantza

Hello Alexi! Very nice work on an interesting and neglected topic. I've added a few things, tweaked & copyedited a bit, but don't really know enough on the subject to add anything substantial, such as a thorough analysis. You've already covered the main spots, it seems to me. BTW, I hope you'll nominate this for a DYK. Again, well done.

PS, if you write or come across any other new Byzantine-related articles, please take the time to add them here and here. Thanks :) Constantine ✍ 15:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, certainly, it is a very good idea to add these extracts. Constantine ✍ 00:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but congrats go to you for beginning these articles. You are quite right, a navbox would be a good idea. Let me check the subject and I'll make one. There'll be plenty of redlinks to fill ;). BTW, if you want, send me an email with your mail address so that I can send you a few pdf books on Byzantine history. Best regards, Constantine ✍ 12:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Belthandros and Chrysantza

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DYK for Song of Armouris

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Alipashiad.

I made a change in Alipashiad, , hope you're ok with it. Ops, great job, btw. --Sulmues _talk 12:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

It's ok, thank you.Alexikoua (talk) 13:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the map correction, I've made derivated work from some other map that is incorect. Regards.--Mladifilozof (talk) 15:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Placenames

Alexi, either Qamil Çami and Panos Bitsilis both have bicultural binational placenames, or they both have monolingual ones.

Either both "Çamëria" and "Epirus"... or neither.

You get to choose. Let me know. DS (talk) 20:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

It is better to mention both terms (N.Epirus and Chameria). I saw that User Zjarri adopts double standards by removing N. Epirus ] and adding Chameria ] the same time on specific articles. So, my proposal is this: keeping both terms. It would be interesting to hear his proposal.Alexikoua (talk) 20:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I'm not adopting any double standards because I explained in the talkpage that I removed it by mistake and only when you re-added it I noticed that I had removed it.--— ZjarriRrethues —  20:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

It's ok, I saw your msg you just added in the article's talkpage. This means we agree on that.Alexikoua (talk) 20:51, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Alipashiad

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Battles of the Greco-Italian War

Hello Alexi! First, nice work on the Klisura article! I just came upon this neglected piece, and wondered if you could work it into something decent. If you want any help, as always, fell free to ask! Cheers, Constantine ✍ 20:53, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Dardani

Please make your comments in Dardani talk page Peresadyes section. Dardani and Peresadyes are not related in any way in that reference. It is a clear case of a misuse of sources. Aigest (talk) 10:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Could you cite in any page of the reference book the connection between Dardani and Peresadyes? Aigest (talk) 10:59, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Please comment on Dardani talk page so others could follow Aigest (talk) 11:01, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Notification

I mentioned your name in a proposal I made at WP:AE, in the thread about Kedadi . Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:35, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Greco-Albanian TF

Mentioned you here. Your proposal of setting up an Albanian-Greek commission to talk better about our differences of opinion in many articles was a very good one. We need understanding, not war. The latter will hinder the Misplaced Pages project in English for both parties. --_Sulmues 18:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Rm your comment here and even if you'll find it annoying, I better not answer it, but remove it. And you are invited to participate here and present your concerns about Greco-Albanian articles.--_Sulmues 16:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Anastas Avramidhi-Lakçe

From the moment I read that article I was 90% sure that it reminded me of something. And today I found out what it was .--— ZjarriRrethues —  10:42, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Before assuming anything about anyone's ethnicity you'd better check non-partisan sources.--— ZjarriRrethues —  11:19, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

And a very interesting article that also has a picture of him.--— ZjarriRrethues —  11:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Very nice, a forum... an non rs source againAlexikoua (talk) 11:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

First of all it's a newspaper and secondly I'm not using it as a source, but I'll upload the picture they have. I'm waiting for your comment for the academic sources which strangely are completely different from the "Institute of Macedonian studies".--— ZjarriRrethues —  11:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Alexikoua, why don't you continue to talk in the talk page rather than tagging the article? And please stay out of edit warring the article. --_Sulmues 00:55, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

There is an ongoing discussion. When the discussion will be over the tag has to stay. I see that your edit-warring is completely fictious. By the way, I just saw your propaganda initiative off english wiki. Really kind of you to mention me.Alexikoua (talk) 01:01, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

This is exactly what FPS is telling us all at the AE: that we don't need to do this revert war. Regarding my comment in the Albanian wikipedia: I take it that you are fluent in Tosk Albanian or did you use Google translation? Athenean already asked me for a translation, but couldn't specify the reasons why he needed it besides sheer curiosity. A comment: You use this word "propaganda" very losely to describe my edits, any particular reason? --_Sulmues 01:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I see that you are obsessed to remove the npov tag, why so? Just read wp:npov. I saw your 'invitations' of edit war in your attempt to recruit new members there, if you mean that. Well, the title's section you wrote is actually the defition of propaganda.Alexikoua (talk) 01:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I said that you and Athenean have accused me of everything and have done so with many Albanian editors, many of them innocent, by asking no checkuser, but only the fact that they were editing Albanian topics. Innocent people were booted as "socks" after two edits. That's how Albanian topics end up by never getting covered in Misplaced Pages, because many Albanians are blocked and we, the last of the Mohikans, have to waste time with the Greek team. You might have forgotten that after 2 years in Misplaced Pages you accused me of being Sarandioti's sock. Or not? So please don't play offended now. I'm looking to the future, please stop looking to the past. I await your thoughts on user:Stifle's talk page for the cooperation board.--_Sulmues 01:50, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Alexikoua, Please use talk page of related article if you have any disputes on the article. Mentioning just "see wp:npov" in your revert is not enough. Please give arguments and state exactly which parts of the article leads to neutrality discussion. As for your "possible meatpuppet" assumption, I invite you to verify this with a wikipedia admin. Piasoft (talk) 01:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Sanction notice

Further to this arbitration enforcement request and by the power vested in me under Misplaced Pages:ARBMAC#Discretionary_sanctions, you are hereby placed on a reverting restriction on all Balkans-related articles in the following terms:

• You may make no more than one revert per rolling 24-hour period on these articles
• If you do make a revert on such an article, you must post an explanation of why you have made the revert, to be at least 50 words and in English, to the talk page of the article, within 30 minutes of posting.
• "Balkans-related" is to be construed widely. If you are not certain whether a certain article is Balkans-related, assume that it is.

This restriction applies until the end of June. You may appeal the restriction to me, to WP:ANI, or to the Arbitration Committee. Stifle (talk) 10:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)