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:::::I am being implored by several Arbs (well 3 actually) to wait, and let them deal with it. Belatedly, they suddenly seem interested. I want a resignation, I think the Arb has behaved deplorably to use that German kid like that. <small><span style="border:1px solid Black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 19:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | :::::I am being implored by several Arbs (well 3 actually) to wait, and let them deal with it. Belatedly, they suddenly seem interested. I want a resignation, I think the Arb has behaved deplorably to use that German kid like that. <small><span style="border:1px solid Black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 19:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Gah! Giano, has it not occurred to you that this might be a misunderstanding piling on a misunderstanding and that there was neither an attempt to slight you nor a vast conspiracy about ''anything''? There was an error made, and it ''is'' being looked into. In fact, it was being looked into before you exploded on the topic because said arb ''notified the committee immediately'' about what happened it it took minutes before some of us realized the whole thing was a mistake.<p>You of all people should understand how overreactions can make a trivial matter explode and this is exactly what happened. Compound this with overreaction to the overreaction and we have a drama fest where there should only have been a funny anecdote to share over a pint about the amusing consequences of using local idioms across the ocean. — ] <sup>]</sup> 20:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC) |
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Please note there is now a designated area for complaining about me here (I do check it from time to time). This talk page is now only for important and interesting matters. Giano (talk) 11:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
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- User talk:Giano II/archive 9 (From July 2008)
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- User talk:Giano II/archive 11 (From July 2009)
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Marked ANI thread partly resolved to note for the record that you did nothing wrong
I have marked partly resolved the ANI thread - I have not closed it (not trying to shut down discussion on the oversight error). But as you were extremely sensitive to the perception that this was an attack on your behavior, I wanted it on the record that consensus is that you had not done anything wrong in the edits leading up to the oversight. I am leaving the thread open until the oversight error issue is discussed and settled. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hardly a perception, the log clearly stated that I had "made an edit revealing personal information". Thank you anyway for you clarity and consideration - I do appreciate it. It is a pity I have to make so much fuss to have such a grave matter addressed. I now know exactly what happened, and the checkuser (who is not even a Wikipedian) could not possibly have known there was the remotest, stupidist risk that I might have "made an edit revealing personal information" if he had not been told this by a very "Senior Wikipedian". I expect you know exactly what I am talking abouut GWH - so let's not discuss this further tonight. I shall resume this in the morning and each morning until I have a satisfactory answer as to what happened, and we may as well have that answer sooner rather than later because I assure you we shall have it one way or the other no matter how long it takes. Giano 00:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- At last people can see the "offending" diff: . Now all you (I already know) need to know is which people (note plural) instructed this very young and obviously naive Oversighter from another project to remove it, and why it took so long for me to prove that I had done nothing wrong and have the post restored. (eventually in full, by Luna santin about half an hour ago ). There is far more to this than meets the eye, this I know for fact, and remembering, I only ask questions when I know the answers - I hope to see some resignations during the day, then we can all forget this unfortunate incident. Giano 10:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hardly a perception, the log clearly stated that I had "made an edit revealing personal information". Thank you anyway for you clarity and consideration - I do appreciate it. It is a pity I have to make so much fuss to have such a grave matter addressed. I now know exactly what happened, and the checkuser (who is not even a Wikipedian) could not possibly have known there was the remotest, stupidist risk that I might have "made an edit revealing personal information" if he had not been told this by a very "Senior Wikipedian". I expect you know exactly what I am talking abouut GWH - so let's not discuss this further tonight. I shall resume this in the morning and each morning until I have a satisfactory answer as to what happened, and we may as well have that answer sooner rather than later because I assure you we shall have it one way or the other no matter how long it takes. Giano 00:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Arb?
What leads you to believe an arb complained about the RfB statement? Hipocrite (talk) 19:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- because it was an Arb, I thought everyone knew that. He shopped on IRC because none of our oversighters would do it. IRC, when will people ever learn about that place. Giano 19:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Please post or email me logs/summary. Thanks. Hipocrite (talk)
- I am being implored by several Arbs (well 3 actually) to wait, and let them deal with it. Belatedly, they suddenly seem interested. I want a resignation, I think the Arb has behaved deplorably to use that German kid like that. Giano 19:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Please post or email me logs/summary. Thanks. Hipocrite (talk)
- because it was an Arb, I thought everyone knew that. He shopped on IRC because none of our oversighters would do it. IRC, when will people ever learn about that place. Giano 19:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Gah! Giano, has it not occurred to you that this might be a misunderstanding piling on a misunderstanding and that there was neither an attempt to slight you nor a vast conspiracy about anything? There was an error made, and it is being looked into. In fact, it was being looked into before you exploded on the topic because said arb notified the committee immediately about what happened it it took minutes before some of us realized the whole thing was a mistake.
You of all people should understand how overreactions can make a trivial matter explode and this is exactly what happened. Compound this with overreaction to the overreaction and we have a drama fest where there should only have been a funny anecdote to share over a pint about the amusing consequences of using local idioms across the ocean. — Coren 20:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)