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Given that there doesn't seem to be any actual dispute, I am removing the NPOV tag from the article. --] (]) 21:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Given that there doesn't seem to be any actual dispute, I am removing the NPOV tag from the article. --] (]) 21:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Mental illness ==

The woman thoroughly believed that demonology, conjuration, voodoo, witchcraft, divination, devil summoning, necromantics and magic are real. She also thoroughly believed playing board games could lead murder, rape, insanity, sexual perversion, homosexuality, sadism, ritual killings and suicide. Its quite apparent from the woman's own testimony that she was dealing with an acute case of schizophrenia if not more serious mental illness. Sane people do not believe in magical devils or witchcraft.

Schizophrenics routinely believe that they can communicate with devils, demons, witches and spirits. Its quite obvious Mrs. Pulling was affected by some sort of mental illness.] (]) 13:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

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Pulling Report

The article references Michael Stackpole's The Pulling Report and makes the following statement:

In fact, The Pulling Report used BADD's own data to demonstrate that suicide actually occurs at lower rates among those who play role-playing games.

I found The Pulling Report fasicnating reading, but nowhere does Stackpole use BADD's data to demonstrate that suicide occurs at lower rates among those who play role-playing games. Is there someone who does actually demonstrate this?

I have deleted the above sentence from the article.

Mathmatical Notes

The note is not clear enough. 4% of adults + 4% of non-adults (as in everyone else, teens + childs + infants + whatever) = 4% of total population. If it's 4% of adults + 4% of teens then the sum is clearly less then 4% of total population. --NYC 22:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

That's because it's what she said, but apparently she didn't know her math or something. Neospawn 18:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

But if you breakdown the population by religion, you don't include infants, since they don't meaningfully have a religion. 4% of adults and 4% of teens as Satanists is effectively 4% of the population as Satanists.--Prosfilaes 19:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

All of these suits lost in court

Pulling also obtained a private investigator's licence, became a consultant to law enforcement, and was an expert witness in several gaming-related lawsuits. All of these suits lost in court

I don't think the reference actually support this claim. Also I think the references "The Pulling Report" reads like an opinion piece and should be substantiated with another source. --24.37.141.122 02:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

While I agree the reverence in this case was inappropriate "The Pulling Report" is a well researched paper and NOT "an opinion piece". In fact others like Carlson in his 1989 Satanism In America: How the Devil Got Much More Than His Due and Hicks in his 1991 In Pursuit of Satan: The Police and the Occult shows that Pulling was part of the whole Satanism under every rock nonsense that was so common in the 1980's. The fact that BADD did not survive her death shows just how off in right wingnut land she really was. If there had really been anything there BADD would have survived her.--BruceGrubb (talk) 08:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

BADD redirect

BADD used to redirect here, but I don't think that the acronym should redirect to a one person, now-defunct, organization when there's an existing 20-year-old organization that uses it.--Prosfilaes 19:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


Neutrality dispute?

On what grounds is the neutrality of the article disputed? --BRPierce (talk) 03:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


Given that there doesn't seem to be any actual dispute, I am removing the NPOV tag from the article. --BRPierce (talk) 21:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Mental illness

The woman thoroughly believed that demonology, conjuration, voodoo, witchcraft, divination, devil summoning, necromantics and magic are real. She also thoroughly believed playing board games could lead murder, rape, insanity, sexual perversion, homosexuality, sadism, ritual killings and suicide. Its quite apparent from the woman's own testimony that she was dealing with an acute case of schizophrenia if not more serious mental illness. Sane people do not believe in magical devils or witchcraft.

Schizophrenics routinely believe that they can communicate with devils, demons, witches and spirits. Its quite obvious Mrs. Pulling was affected by some sort of mental illness.FreddyPickle (talk) 13:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

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