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| Hi. The article ] was a university class project. It was input by ], deleted at AfD ], and I explained to him ] why Misplaced Pages wasn't a web host for his project. Today it was re-created, with two different capitalisations; both have been db-g4-d, after cries of "this is our project under peer review, please leave it till the end of April", and trouble with an IP removing the db tags. My reason for telling you all this is that just before it was zapped I saw a link which showed he had input it to Simple. I don't now how tolerant people are there of this sort of thing, but I thought I would give you a heads-up. Apart from anything else, I'm not sure how simple its English is! Regards, ] (]) 21:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC) | Hi. The article ] was a university class project. It was input by ], deleted at AfD ], and I explained to him ] why Misplaced Pages wasn't a web host for his project. Today it was re-created, with two different capitalisations; both have been db-g4-d, after cries of "this is our project under peer review, please leave it till the end of April", and trouble with an IP removing the db tags. My reason for telling you all this is that just before it was zapped I saw a link which showed he had input it to Simple. I don't now how tolerant people are there of this sort of thing, but I thought I would give you a heads-up. Apart from anything else, I'm not sure how simple its English is! Regards, ] (]) 21:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Deletation of article
Problems with neutrality of article
Hi! You helped me out twice before and I thought that you could again. If you have other things to do I won't bother you again.
I objected to the article 'Persian people' because it was biased, unfair and Contained factually wrong statements. You told me to share my concerns on the discussion page of the article and include a token that stated that the neutrality of the article was disputed. I have done all of that, where do I go from here? How can I get the article deleted and replaced with the correct one that was in place before they change it?
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Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/Timeline of the 2007–08 South Pacific cyclone season – I'm still hesitant about supporting. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
En dashes in compound adjectives
In response to your reversion of Index of Trinidad and Tobago-related articles, compound adjectives in which one part of the compound is two or more spaced words can be connected by an en dash instead of a hyphen. See the Misplaced Pages page here: Dash#Compound adjectives, which is supported by two references, and I've read it in other places too. It also makes logical sense to me. "Trinidad and Tobago" is one spaced entity so if you use it in a compound modifier/adjective like Index of Trinidad and Tobago-related articles it makes sense to join the compound adjective with an en dash to convey that the whole phrase is part of the compound. LonelyMarble (talk) 16:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- I don't like it, but yes, some people do favour it. Why not simplify it: "Index of articles related to Trinidad and Tobago"? So much smoother, and the problem has gone. Tony (talk) 17:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Main reason is to stay consistent with all the other index or list articles related to countries. User:The Transhumanist is the main user that has organized and started these articles and the outlines, I just try to add them to see also sections and make sure the name is correct. En dashes in compound adjectives are a little odd but I think it's better than using the alternative because with just the one hyphen it looks like Tobago-related is the whole compound adjective, an alternative would be Trinidad-and-Tobago-related but that doesn't work because you don't want to break up the country entity with hyphens. The only thing left to do really is use an en dash instead, which looks fine to me and helps convey the meaning better I think. I don't really care about moving it to your alternative name, I just wouldn't want to do it unless every index/list article is moved too for consistency, so I rather just use the en dash. LonelyMarble (talk) 17:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Do either of you guys mind if I continue to move the index/list articles with a spaced country to the en dash? I have done it to other countries, not just this one Trinidad and Tobago article. I'm just wondering if you guys mind if I continue or not. LonelyMarble (talk) 18:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Main reason is to stay consistent with all the other index or list articles related to countries. User:The Transhumanist is the main user that has organized and started these articles and the outlines, I just try to add them to see also sections and make sure the name is correct. En dashes in compound adjectives are a little odd but I think it's better than using the alternative because with just the one hyphen it looks like Tobago-related is the whole compound adjective, an alternative would be Trinidad-and-Tobago-related but that doesn't work because you don't want to break up the country entity with hyphens. The only thing left to do really is use an en dash instead, which looks fine to me and helps convey the meaning better I think. I don't really care about moving it to your alternative name, I just wouldn't want to do it unless every index/list article is moved too for consistency, so I rather just use the en dash. LonelyMarble (talk) 17:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: ANI
I said that sort of tongue in cheek, so I'm sorry if I caused unnecessary offense. In any case, length isn't exactly a criterion for blocking solely based on username, and that criterion has disappeared off WP:U for quite a while. —kurykh 18:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:Uw-rollbackremoved
Template:Uw-rollbackremoved has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. -- IRP ☎ 00:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #25
The March issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. Jason Rees (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed your email was disabled (and administrators are required to have email enabled), so you may want to address that. Regardless, I sent you an email a few days ago, and noticed you didn't respond. Please check, thanks. :) TheAE talk/sign 04:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it works now. I have sent another email, so check again. :) TheAE talk/sign 05:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Y Replied again. TheAE talk/sign 21:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Crat
Well...at least there's one for ya :P And the crow outside is crawing to the tune of the shower scene of Psycho o_0 Cheers. I' 13:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Admin coaching
I think you've forgotten about it. Did you not see the previous times I pointed it out in my messages? :P I'd like to receive lessons on WP:UAA and WP:AIV next. --Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign) 13:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- This seems more like adoption, no? iMatthew : Chat 13:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
USNA alum topic
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America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12
Could you please semi-protect of America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12 indefinitely for six weeks? The last protection was expired few minutes ago. Some IP users could editing false "spoilers/speculation". See log here. ApprenticeFan 00:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Outline of knowledge WikiProject update - 04/06/2009
As the country outlines have been approaching completion and more attention has been given to the non-country outlines and the Outline of knowledge as a whole, I've run into this...
Topic lists
As you know, we've been cleaning up sets of pages the links of which are displayed on the outlines.
One of the most prominent of the sets presented are the "List of x topics" (including "List of x-related topics) pages, and they are in a sorry state.
There's actually 2 different kinds mixed together in the same set: most of them are alphabetical indexes.
The others are non-alphabetical hierarchical lists. That is...
outlines!
So, I've been renaming the indexes to "Index of x articles" or "Index of x-related articles", and wikifying them (especially their lead sections). So far, all the country-related topics lists that are indexes have been renamed. It appears the new name fits so well that nobody favors the old name over the new. It's been over a week since that was done, with no complaints, so I've started on the rest.
As for the topic lists that are outlines, those can be absorbed or merged into the OOK. Even though this would entail a lot of renaming and reformatting, and cutting and pasting, these pages might still save us some work! I'm not sure how many there are, but that should become clear once the index pages are all renamed.
Feel free to join in and help. It's hog's heaven!
The Transhumanist 04:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
WP:NOT
Could you please unprotect the page. Most participants are discussing as well as editing and I think protecting the page will stifle efforts to find a consensus. There's not a real edit war brewing from where I am sitting. Hiding T 14:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Nobody has breached 3RR, almost every change has been discussed on the talk page and it is not an edit war. The page is being tweaked in line with policy. The only person plain reverting is User:Jc37, everybody else is discussing on the talk page and trying different changes each time they edit. That's part of our policy on creating consensus, and protecting the page is not conducive to that. Can I ask you to review WP:CONSENSUS, especially "Consensus as a result of the editing process" and File:Consensus Flowchart.svg. We're trying to improve the text communally. We are not repeatedly reverting each others contributions, we're amending them. There's a difference. Please consider unprotecting the page, otherwise I truly believe progress will be stifled. Hiding T 14:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Further to that, check the block logs of all involved. Okay, I'm going to fall down on dreamguy, but we're stand-up editors. And that debate on the talk page is anything but heated, which I would expect to see in an edit war. Hiding T 14:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm involved, I can't unprotect it. That's why I am asking. I'll take it to AN then. Hiding T 14:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, that was a little churlish, I could have phrased that more as a query to take it to AN. Sorry. Anyway, I've tried to be as balanced as possible with Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#WP:NOT. Please feel free to add or expand. Cheers, Hiding T 14:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. I'll probably get pointed to some sub-page involving unprotection, the existence of which I've long since forgotten. I'm happy enough to take a backseat now and respect whatever consensus emerges. I'm off now anyway. Hiding T 15:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Long time no see!
I've been lurking, waiting for the inspiration of the next hurricane season. Just wanted to point out a recent vandalism spree that I came across. Looks like no one else had noticed it, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. You (or one of your talk-page-stalkers) will be better able to keep an eye on him than I will.
Hope the adminning is going well, and I'll be seeing you more over the next few months. Plasticup /C 19:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
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| You dont have one of these here, you should have for all the rollback grants and Application request accept you do :-) Maen. K. A. (talk) 22:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
Wow!
That was quick! Thanks for the rollback permissions. :) Lychosis /C 23:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry to bug you, I just have a question about using rollback. Is it frowned upon to use it to undo a single vandalism edit? Thanks in advance for the help! Lychosis /C 23:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, that is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged. Just make sure you use it for reverting vandalism (or your own edits) only, and you should be fine. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 23:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! :D Lychosis /C 23:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, that is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged. Just make sure you use it for reverting vandalism (or your own edits) only, and you should be fine. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 23:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Project update
Thanks for the update. I just read a bit of User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge, and it's proven quite useful so far. I'm sure I'll be able to use it to my advantage in the future.
Also, I think it might actually be a good idea to advertise the outlines, so the redlinks turn blue. Thoughts? –Juliancolton | 13:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, this looks really great. I've come up with two suggestions: One thing that might be really useful is advertising the "Outline of Knowledge" in {{Infobox Country}} (or whatever template is used). Another would be to figure out how to expand the lead without bloating it too much. The simple one-sentence lead is too short, but four paragraphs for an outline would be excessive. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 18:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- In a thread above (on my talk page), Penubag wondered if outlines could be made for medicine and physics. I pointed out that those already existed, and he replied: "I think we should make the outlines more visible in the article. The current outlines are buried all the way down in the See Also sections. It would be nice if they appeared at the beginning of the article like the hat notes. (I didn't even know we had outlines for those)."
- Hatnotes would be the perfect place to mention these, because they are topical guides (tables of contents) for their respective subjects.
- Anyone want to help with this?
- The Transhumanist 03:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll help. –Juliancolton | 13:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- The Transhumanist 03:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Articles for Deletion: The Collective (Ayn Rand)
This is just to invite you to take a second look at the "keep" decision you announced. I understand that Misplaced Pages works by consensus rather than by simple counting of votes, but of the four votes to "keep", one was based on the arguably irrelevant reason that there were problems with the article with which it might be merged; it was not a vote to keep on its merits. Otherwise, votes to merge outnumbered votes to keep two to one. I am curious how you arrived at the decision.KD Tries Again (talk) 03:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)KD Tries Again
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Re:UAA
Thanks for your advice. I will remember that in the future. GT5162 13:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, good luck with your request for global rollback, even if if doesn't succeed. I would support you, but I only started monitoring #cvn-sw a few days ago, so my vote wouldn't be worth much. GT5162 13:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
HI, JULIAN
As for the ado about my username, please be advised that I am not authorized to change my username as this is the primary username that was established and the name that was agreed to on February 5, 2009 when I was unbanned; see "Unban proposal for Rms125a@hotmail.com" at http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive512#Unban_proposal_for_Rms125a.40hotmail.com_.2F_User:Robert_Sieger.
You can also contact User:Alison, User:Durova or User:Eliz81 for more on that. This username has been grandfathered in, at least according to the colloquy below during the last unbanning discussion during the same proposal at the link I provided.
Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 14:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Crat
Very funny :) Kennedy 20:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- Not at all! Especially as I can now spell it correctly! :P Kennedy 21:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
University class project article on Simple
Hi. The article MS PDA business strategy was a university class project. It was input by User:Msgp4, deleted at AfD here, and I explained to him here on his talk page why Misplaced Pages wasn't a web host for his project. Today it was re-created, with two different capitalisations; both have been db-g4-d, after cries of "this is our project under peer review, please leave it till the end of April", and trouble with an IP removing the db tags. My reason for telling you all this is that just before it was zapped I saw a link which showed he had input it to Simple. I don't now how tolerant people are there of this sort of thing, but I thought I would give you a heads-up. Apart from anything else, I'm not sure how simple its English is! Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)