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	:As stated by Kuyabribri above, the current provided as a citation for the extremely liberal line doesn't back up the assertion that's been repeatedly inserted . The map showing voting records shows that the area voted heavily for Barack Obama in the last election. Saying that an area voted heavily in favor of a political candidate doesn't automatically place that area in the extremes of the political spectrum. More importantly, those voting records do not tie directly to the voting records of the staff, or any students eligible to vote. Asserting that a voting map shows anything related to the political affiliation of the faculty of staff is ], and I believe an attempt to back up ]. -] (]) 18:21, 2 April 2009 (UTC)		:As stated by Kuyabribri above, the current provided as a citation for the extremely liberal line doesn't back up the assertion that's been repeatedly inserted . The map showing voting records shows that the area voted heavily for Barack Obama in the last election. Saying that an area voted heavily in favor of a political candidate doesn't automatically place that area in the extremes of the political spectrum. More importantly, those voting records do not tie directly to the voting records of the staff, or any students eligible to vote. Asserting that a voting map shows anything related to the political affiliation of the faculty of staff is ], and I believe an attempt to back up ]. -] (]) 18:21, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
	:(e/c) Additionally, even if this statement were true, it doesn't belong in the lead. I'm going to be moving it down shortly if it's still there when I get to it. <span style="color:#808080">]</span><sup><span style="color:#008080">]</span></sup> 18:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)		:(e/c) Additionally, even if this statement were true, it doesn't belong in the lead. I'm going to be moving it down shortly if it's still there when I get to it. <span style="color:#808080">]</span><sup><span style="color:#008080">]</span></sup> 18:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

			I think we should worry about the location after we reach a consensus on wording. Is the new wording fine with everyone. It's okay with Kuyabribri. I think the location is good because, truthfully, most people think of liberalism as they hear Piedmont High School, kind of like San Francisco and Berkeley. That's what it's kmnown for! Thanks. ] (]) 18:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

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This page needs a Piedmont High logo, although I can't seem to find a good quality one anywhere.--SanjayPatel 23:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

http://www.piedmont.k12.ca.us/phs/buttons/phs.jpg

http://www.piedmont.k12.ca.us/phs/buttons/scot_man.jpg

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One of these images might be good for use in the article, or provide a nice base. ;) Thunk 00:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

liberal/partisan/criticism edit war

Over this repeated statement: The school is run by an extremely liberal and openly partisan administration, receiving much criticism from the community. At the most basic we need to see verifiable references from reliable sources that substantiate the elements:

'extremely liberal ... (school) administration'
'openly partisan (school) administration'
'much criticism from the community'

The usual places to look are online newspaper archives and the archives at news.google.com. Several examples of a google news archive search: , , , Keep in mind that personal experiences of this bias/criticism are original research which is insufficient for encyclopedic inclusion. Zedla (talk) 20:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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I am assessing this article as B / Mid class for been well structured and having a good collection of references and pictures. I am assessing it as Mid importance for well known academics, alumni, and nationally recognised contest. Camaron | Chris (talk) 12:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

The new "liberal/partisan" edit war

The statement of the school's "extremely liberal and openly partisan administration" () is blatant POV pushing. The source given does not mention this; it is a map of voting trends in Alameda County. If an RS can be found to justify this statement, I would not necessarily be opposed to it, as long as it were worded along the lines of "Piedmont has come under criticism for its extremely liberal and openly partisan administration..." and explains the significance of this claim, e.g., biases in curriculum, corruption, etc. KuyaBriBri 18:13, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

As stated by Kuyabribri above, the current link provided as a citation for the extremely liberal line doesn't back up the assertion that's been repeatedly inserted diff. The map showing voting records shows that the area voted heavily for Barack Obama in the last election. Saying that an area voted heavily in favor of a political candidate doesn't automatically place that area in the extremes of the political spectrum. More importantly, those voting records do not tie directly to the voting records of the staff, or any students eligible to vote. Asserting that a voting map shows anything related to the political affiliation of the faculty of staff is improper synthesis, and I believe an attempt to back up original research. -Optigan13 (talk) 18:21, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) Additionally, even if this statement were true, it doesn't belong in the lead. I'm going to be moving it down shortly if it's still there when I get to it. KuyaBriBri 18:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I think we should worry about the location after we reach a consensus on wording. Is the new wording fine with everyone. It's okay with Kuyabribri. I think the location is good because, truthfully, most people think of liberalism as they hear Piedmont High School, kind of like San Francisco and Berkeley. That's what it's kmnown for! Thanks. Akhamenehpour (talk) 18:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

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