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levant category

Hi

I have removed the category tag "levant" from the article cyprus

I have no problem with it apart from the guidelines state that if it has little relevance tags should not be added.

If you feel I have wronged you by doing this please feel free to discuss on my chat page

thanks --Chaosdruid (talk) 06:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The question of relevance is subjective. Levantine people regard Cyprus as part of the Levant. 94.192.38.247 (talk) 01:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok - I see you chose not to discuss this on my chat page as suggested, and you have added it again without discussion.

Cyprus is an independent island, and so I am confused as to who exactly you are saying the Levantine people are, as it seems this is a historical grouping and not relevant today, and why they should consider Cyprus as being part of Levant. I understand that Cyprus was part of the Ugrit kingdom, but was autonomous. The Levant page says "The name Levantine is additionally applied to people of Italian (especially Venetian and Genoese), French, or other Euro-Mediterranean origin who have lived in Anatolia, (current Turkey) or the East Mediterranean coast (the Levant) since the period of the Crusades, the Byzantine period and the Ottoman period."

Please could you explain this to me as the map of Levant - here - clearly shows that Cyprus is not part of the grouping.

Thanks --Chaosdruid (talk) 02:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

PS the document Misplaced Pages:Category#Guidelines contains this "An article should normally possess all the referenced information necessary to demonstrate that it belongs in each of its categories. For example, avoid placing a category for a profession or award unless the article provides some verification that the placement is accurate. Use the {{Category unsourced}} tag if you find an article in a category that is not shown by sources to be appropriate. If the composition of a category is likely to be controversial, a list (which can be annotated) may be more appropriate."

Since you started the discussion on my talk page, that's where I continued it. I didn't add it again without any discussion as you stated. You began by stating you have no problem with it and I begin to wonder whether your subsequent insistance demonstrates otherwise. The Levant isn't some sort of political organization so Cyprus being an independant (albeit disputed) island is not relevant. The Levantine people are the people of the Levant, which is widely understood to be the countries in the Eastern Mediterranean including the Syro-Anatolian island of Cyprus. This is the Lebanese, Syrians, Cypriots, Palestinians, Israelis, Jordanians, Iraqis and Turks. The map is not a definitive illustration and simply depicts the Levant in the most restrictive definition, which is Historical Syria. Can you explain why you want to restrict the term to historical Syria? After all, Cyprus has historically being regarded within the use of the term and it makes little sense to exclude an island 60 miles off the coast of Syria in the Eastern Mediterranean from a term that is applied to the lands in the Eastern Mediterranean. I would be interested in opinions from WikiProject Cyprus members, especially Cypriot editors. 94.192.38.247 (talk) 04:58, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Insistence ? I questioned the validity of the category tag. Perhaps you are not aware that the Republic of Cyprus is a member of the European Union and there is no dispute as to it's independence?.

I do not wish to restrict the term to historical Syria, but you have yet to show that there are a significant number of Levant references in the Cyprus, History of Cyprus or other related articles to warrant inclusion of the category.

Do not attempt to conduct original research on my motives and intent, I have clearly stated my reasoning and will transclude this series of correspondence into the Cyprus article as you wish. Your last comment is rather exclusionary, as it seems to imply that Cypriot editors have more relevance than the rest of the Misplaced Pages community.-Chaosdruid (talk) 09:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Talk:Sfiha. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. THF (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

Big yawn, sure. 94.192.38.247 (talk) 17:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

WQA

A report about your persistently uncivil behavior has been raised at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette_alerts#94.192.38.247. THF (talk) 17:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

THF, you are persistantly violating the fundamental Wiki policies WP:AGF, WP:GAME, WP:BITE and many others. You are skilled at making me look like the bad guy from those few silly edit summaries I too hastily typed. My history on wikipedia proves I'm supportive to the project and have invested much time and effort improving articles. Your behaviour is WP:GAME. You aggravate editors left, right and centre and then frame them as bad guys. I really wonder where a legal academic finds the time to spend all day engaging in subversive activity on wikipedia. READ >> WP:LOVE. 94.192.38.247 (talk) 17:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

NPA violation

When you tell someone that they need to seek confrontation just for some human contact, that is clearly a personal attack. Please do not make comments like this again, or you may be blocked. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:07, 2 March 2009 (UTC)