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FA assessment
Dear Realis2, please, can you tell me something about FA assessment? I would be very glad, if you could answer my question. God bless you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.40.12.39 (talk) 14:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH! Are you gay? Then we can make some hot love. Ok, JOKE. Please answer my question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.40.12.39 (talk) 14:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
re: "Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin' (Too Good to Be True)"
Hi, Realist. Your message had me scratching my head at first, because although I remember creating "Do What You Do" a while back (since it had gone #1 Adult Contemporary and I was populating that category), I had forgotten about the duet. But I did create it, and only used the fact that it went #1 Hot Dance Club Play, and I had just created the other Jermaine page, as my reasons for doing so. I'm still learning about properly sourcing articles, and so I went back and added a reference about #1 Dance to both the song page as well as Jermaine's album page. As far as release date, I couldn't find any chart listings other than #1 Dance, so it may have just been released to dance clubs in the US. I guess it was the B-side to "Do What You Do", at least in some countries. Anyway, I don't know if that qualifies it to be kept or deleted. I'll leave it up to your judgement -- either way is fine with me. I guess it might not be notable enough for wikipedia, even if I remember hearing the song back in the 80s. Anyway, thanks for noticing that. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 06:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'll give that a try in the next few days (gotta get to bed soon!) but I'm not sure where I'd look for that. I tried discogs.com, and found different track listings for 7" vs. 12" and for different countries. In some locations the instrumental duet seemed to be the B-side, in others the vocal version was, and to compound the challenge Jermaine's album had two titles, depending on country. If you want to redirect the duet to either the album or "Do What You Do", I won't object. Just Do What You (gotta) Do (sorry, couldn't resist!) Sometimes songs are released to the clubs that aren't technically singles, right? But I don't know if going #1 Dance Club Play warrants enough notability for a page. I'll see what I can find and get back to you in the near future. Thanks, dude. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 07:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I would too. I noticed you're quite an MJ fan (or active in many of those pages, at least), maybe you know of another person who might be able to confirm this? By the way, I was just on the MJ singles discography page, and "Tell Me..." wasn't listed, even under collaborations. But then that page had a few other issues as well, like "Scream" was listed under MJ solo, as was "We Are the World". But I'm not taking on that task right now. "Tell Me..." should count as an MJ #1 Dance, since he is a featured artist. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 07:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I stay well away from that article, I think I know someone on wiki who can clarify it, he's good with old school MJ/Jackson 5 music. If we can clarify that it was a single, not just some song that charted off mysteries airplay we can add it to the discography and MJ singles template. — Realist 07:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I would too. I noticed you're quite an MJ fan (or active in many of those pages, at least), maybe you know of another person who might be able to confirm this? By the way, I was just on the MJ singles discography page, and "Tell Me..." wasn't listed, even under collaborations. But then that page had a few other issues as well, like "Scream" was listed under MJ solo, as was "We Are the World". But I'm not taking on that task right now. "Tell Me..." should count as an MJ #1 Dance, since he is a featured artist. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 07:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
"Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin'", if I'm not mistaken, was released as the b-side to "Do What You Do". I think there was contention to release the song as a single but Epic Records apparently didn't wanna release it though it did hit the dance clubs so in essence it was a dance hit but it was never released as a single. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 17:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks BT, not sure what to do, if it's a b-side then it probably doesn't warrant it's own page (notability issues). Unless it was particularly critically acclaimed (need proof). That said I lean slightly towards deletionism, if I were to nominate it for deletion the community could very well vote keep. I think we should do a similar think to "Scream/Childhood", although that was a definite double A-side. Thoughts? — Realist 17:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah it's probably to delete but if it hit number-one on the dance chart (need proof too, lol), then who knows... LOL BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 18:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- There is a reliable source that says it hit #1 on that chart, thus I'm not sure it would be good to delete. — Realist 18:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah it's probably to delete but if it hit number-one on the dance chart (need proof too, lol), then who knows... LOL BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 18:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what is the best course of action here, since I don't know how to prove any of a number of claims about this song. Whether it was a double A-side or not, whether going #1 Club Play is notable enough for a page to remain, etc. I'm pretty sure that if a song or its remix appeared on a 12" single, it could chart on the Club Play chart, at least that used to be the rule. If it turns out it was a B-side and you want to add a paragraph about "Tell Me..." to the "Do What You Do" page and delete "Tell Me...", that's OK with me. I'd do it, but I should ask for your feedback first. I've been spending too much time on here anyway, I'm starting to get frustrated by little things (not you, Realist, it's been pleasant corresponding with you), and I think I need a bit of a wiki-break. I'll check back later. Thanks. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 06:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well no rush, I don't want it deleted even if it is a b-side, i think the #1 position on the dance chart warrants a page. Hope you return soon. — Realist 06:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Realist. Maybe we'll find out for sure someday. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 07:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Raymone Bain
For AfDs, I would think around a month or so should pass before any re-nom. Ones that are quickly re-nommed are generally frowned upon. Wizardman 17:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
re: The Supremes.
Very nice work! Two things I noticed, though:
- The "New Supremes" were never officially known as the "New Supremes." It was a marketing term more than anything; the official group name was just "The Supremes" you might want to slide an "unofficially" into that relevant sentence in the lead.
- I don't know that Jean Terrell left the group because of "Bad Weather"; according to Mary Wilson's book, it was more because the two of them were becoming estranged, and Terrell disagreed with Wilson's leadership for the group.
But again, great work. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 17:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Cheers, feel free to make these minor corrections, I don't own any books or anything, still, glad to see it stay as FA. — Realist 17:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Changes to the Marvin Gaye introduction and subsequent sections
I've proposed a change to the entire introduction of Marvin Gaye's "about" section of the Misplaced Pages article, so to speak.
Lemme know what you think:
Marvin Pentz Gay, Jr., better known as Marvin Gaye (April 2, 1939 - April 1, 1984) was an American singer-songwriter, drummer, pianist and instrumentalist. Starting his career as a member of the successful doo-wop group The Moonglows in the late fifties, he ventured into a solo career shortly after the group disbanded in 1960 signing with the Tamla subsidiary of Motown Records. After a year as a session drummer, Marvin quickly ranked as the label's top-selling solo artist during the sixties. Due to numerous solo hits including "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)", "Ain't That Peculiar", "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" and his duet singles with singers such as Mary Wells and Tammi Terrell, he was crowned "The Prince of Motown".
Notable for fighting the hit-making, but creatively restrictive, Motown record-making process, in which performers and songwriters and record producers were generally kept in separate camps, Marvin was able to prove with albums like his groundbreaking 1971 album, What's Going On and his 1973 album, Let's Get It On, that he was able to produce his own form of musical expression without relying on the Motown system inspiring fellow Motown artists such as Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson to do the same.
His mid-1970s work including the Let's Get It On and I Want You albums helped to influence the quiet storm, urban adult contemporary and slow jam genres. After a self-imposed European exile in the late seventies, Marvin returned to prominence briefly on the 1982 Grammy-winning hit, "Sexual Healing" and the Midnight Love album before his tragic death at the hands of his clergyman father on April 1, 1984. He was posthumously inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1987.
Then I'll add these things in the "Legacy" section:
Gaye's career has been described as one that "spanned the entire history of rhythm and blues from fifties doo-wop to eighties contemporary soul." Critics have also stated that Gaye's musical output "signified the development of black music from raw rhythm and blues, through sophisticated soul to the political awareness of the 1970s and increased concentration on personal and sexual politics thereafter."
I could put in the mid paragraph of the section somewhere, lol. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 18:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
We could do more but I'll start with that, and then figure out how to make the other sections look as if they weren't written by a high school student, lol. Also if you wanna add more discussion to the page, go here: Talk:Marvin Gaye. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 18:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
OK made a few corrections/ pov changes, as long as its all sourced in the content of the main article body it's fine. — Realist 18:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I can do that, I could also add sources online if I can find it so the intro would look alright. But I'm nervous though because if I put this information up, it'll be reverted back, lol. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 19:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- If you make sure everything you add is reliably sourced (you know what sources are good by now) either in the lead itself or the content of the article, no-one has a right to revert you. If they do they can be dealt with. Personally I source all the info in the content of the article itself and don't source the lead. Michael Jackson and the Thriller album have leads that are almost all unsourced because it's sourced in the article. Allmusic.com, Rolling Stone.com, TIME.com, etc etc are all very good sources and you will find lots of info. If people revert your sourced material let me know. — Realist 19:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Gotcha, lol. Thanks for taking the album pictures out, I figured that was a reason why the other template showed up. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 19:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. — Realist 19:49, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Unlawful revert
I am not happy about what you did on Michael Jackson. I was simply correcting many errors that were in that article. Please revert them, for I did nothing wrong. Thank you - --SwisterTwister (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I reverted the placing of one comma, the rest of your work was absolutely fine, I most certainly did not break a law. I was keeping it consistent with the rest of the article. It should be "Scream", not "Scream," . Please don't take it personally and try to assume good faith. Sorry if I offended you. — Realist 23:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks for apologizing.:) Cheers! - --SwisterTwister (talk) 04:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Your message
I'll look into this, but can you give me the IPs you suspect s/he's been using? Thanks, Spellcast (talk) 23:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I couldn't respond swiftly yesterday (with studies and all). It'd be good if you could show me the exact IPs before blocking. Thanks, Spellcast (talk) 05:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
re: This Billboard 100 issue
Hey, sorry for a delayed response - yes, sure we can work on this - we just need to be careful with the language we use. Some articles are specific to the Hot 100 and I also don't want to create confusion with any of Billboard's other charts, i.e. the Pop 100. - eo (talk) 12:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
Sorry about the delay. AWB has been having a few issues lately. Here is the august issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 20:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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Joke.
No, It is not a joke. The album has sold 108 million. A diamond record in the US is 10 million sales. meaning that an 11X Diamond Record is 110 million sales. and as I said before: if all the sales where in the U.S. alone, the record would be certified 11X Diamond. does that answer your question? Altenhofen (talk) 23:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
RfA thank you
— JGHowes - 19 August 2008
- Enjoy that mop. :-) — Realist 02:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Potential plagiarism
Hi! I actually wasn't the person who contacted the Star-Bulletin about the Tim Ryan plagiarism case; I was just the first one to report it on-wiki. My advice would be to not worry too much about whatever you say, as long as you write politely and clearly. Don't be overly accusatory, but stick up for yourself—I gather that a lot of the writing that was lifted from Michael Jackson was yours.
You should probably start with an email to one of the contacts for the Times Online; of the listed contacts their Editor-in-Chief (online.editor@timesonline.co.uk) seems the logical choice. Provide the article title, publication date, byline, and online URL, and give a permanent link to the Michael Jackson article on the date before the Times article appeared. Include a couple of examples of the apparent overlap, and (perhaps) point to a URL where a more detailed comparison is available. (See a fairly pretty example at User:TenOfAllTrades/Aloha Dupe.) Indicate that you're one of the major contributors to our article, and note that you were pleased to share your work, but only within the terms of the GFDL. Offer to help with any questions about understanding our article histories and other Misplaced Pages-specific issues.
A good person from whom you might seek further guidance is User:Michael Snow. In the Tim Ryan kerfuffle Michael was the one who wrote the letter to the Star-Bulletin; Michael is also a member of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, and just generally a good guy.
I should warn you that I'm just home from the pub, so if anything I've written here seems suspicious then you oughtn't trust it. Cheers! TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will start this over the next few days, I might run it by you before I send it if that's OK? — Realist 02:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't mind having a look, but I've never been the most brilliant at public relations. Ask nicely; don't make threats; be helpful; that's all you'll probably need. It's your work, and you've got a right to be acknowledged for it. If the editor's any good, he'll be mortified that one of his writers did something like this. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 03:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Re. Reply
GA, wow. That's very impressive. Another contention for what I said earlier, I guess. :P Leonard 04:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Lol, cheers. — Realist 04:55, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
21 August 2008
Hi, Realist. I told you that I will contact you on 21 August 2008. We have to work on DYK. Where are you? Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Are you ready? Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Please reply. I've to leave my computer after 30 minutes! :) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Please copy and paste the following here.
... that Alfred Merle Norman, whose collection of 11,086 species was acquired by the Natural History Museum, London between 1898 to 1911, was awarded the Linnean Medal in 1906? (new article by User:Masterpiece2000; nominated by User:Realist2)
New nominations should be at the top. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Done, now we write? :-) — Realist 05:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Please replace with ~~~~! :) Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- I did, did i not? The signature looks correctly formatted now. — Realist 05:33, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Please replace with ~~~~! :) Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, you've done that. You've nominated the article Alfred Merle Norman for DYK. You can create an article that has more than 1,500 characters (around 1.5 kilobytes) in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables) and nominate it for DYK. Please follow Template_talk:Did_you_know#Instructions. I've to leave my computer now. I hope this will help you. :) Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Cheers. — Realist 05:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Jackson and Chandler
A really interesting article. I've read about half of it so far, and it wouldn't look out of place in an article by The Times (ouch! :) I'm seriously considering reviewing it, believe it or not, which would be a first for me.--andreasegde (talk) 09:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
MJ Picture
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 19:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- I know, definitive proof that his plastic surgery had improved and the fact that he isn't in a wheelchair (tabloid bitch's) and it's been deleted as a copy vio. Fu*king great. — Realist 19:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
LMP
Hey I corrected a misprint the #16 cannot be right since the Chart quoted is The Bubbling under the Hot 100. It was 116 . I woudld love to say LMP had two Top 20s but she didn't Lights Out went to 34 and In The Ghetto never mad it to the top 100. Think about it don't get lost in the letter of the law. Follow my logic, think about it, I do not want a conflict or let us ask another editor.66.108.111.112 (talk) 19:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- If that is the case it should not be in that list at all.66.108.111.112 (talk) 19:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK that's up to you, I don't give a crap either way. — Realist 19:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Can we leave Lights Out at # 34 since that was just changed in the last week then we can find a source for #34. I do care and don't want the article to be misleading about her career and chart success.66.108.111.112 (talk) 20:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK, do it asap. — Realist 20:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Can we leave Lights Out at # 34 since that was just changed in the last week then we can find a source for #34. I do care and don't want the article to be misleading about her career and chart success.66.108.111.112 (talk) 20:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK that's up to you, I don't give a crap either way. — Realist 19:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Image:Michael Jackson fans waving posters in support of MJ.jpg
You're on the left holding the banner! :)--andreasegde (talk) 21:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm gonna crop the photo and put you on my Facebook page as a friend. :)--andreasegde (talk) 22:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Lol, hilarious. :-) — Realist 22:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
R2 would this be okay?
So those images on that poster are not counted as copyright on that photo, so if we got a poster of MJ and took a photo of that photo would it be useable? Gaogier 02:21, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've asked about this before, I asked if we would be allowed to just show and enlarge MJ on that poster the fans were holding. Apparently that would be a derivative which we can't do. Your more than welcome to hold up a poster of MJ and get someone to take a photo. But you can't focus in on the poster specifically. — Realist 13:36, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Please reply at both of our pages in the future just C + P i often use my old emac and pages are slow as i'm on now. Gaogier 22:22, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Michael
I've started reviewing it.--andreasegde (talk) 13:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Marvin Gaye
If you meant reference some quotes from web sites where I get my Marvin Gaye info, then yes. You should check out the "Let's Get It On" article. Some guy did an amazing job with it. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 21:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- I mean actually formatting your sources so they are displayed nice and neat, using web templates. All the references on the Michael Jackson article are displayed very nicely and gives all the important info on the writer, title, date, publisher etc etc. All the references in the article you just pointed out above have nicely displayed references at the bottom of the page. Can you do it like that? If not I don't mind teaching you. :0 — Realist 21:10, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- LOL, I guess I don't know how to do that, I always copy it, lol. How do you do it? LOL I usually just put the reference symbols on whatever I get the info from. LOL :-) BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 21:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK you use this template <ref>{{cite web |first= |last= |url= |title= |publisher= |date=] |accessdate=2008-08-18 }}</ref>
- You must fill in each category. If you don't have the details just don't fill it in after the = sign.
- First and Last are the first and last name of the person who wrote the wen source.
- URL is the actual web link link you are using
- Title is the name of the story eg "Jacko on his Backo"
- Publisher eg BBC, CNN, ABC News etc etc
- Date is the date the source was written on.
- Access date is the date you found the source and first used it in a wikipedia article.
- It's best to do it in your sandbox, when you have filled out all the details you send it over to the article and add it after the full stop of what ever line your sourcing it with. Try it on one of the web links in the Marvin Gaye article and we will see how you do. Once you get it, it's easy. Make sure you keep a copy of that template safe somewhere, it will go in my archive soon. — Realist 21:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK you use this template <ref>{{cite web |first= |last= |url= |title= |publisher= |date=] |accessdate=2008-08-18 }}</ref>
- LOL, I guess I don't know how to do that, I always copy it, lol. How do you do it? LOL I usually just put the reference symbols on whatever I get the info from. LOL :-) BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 21:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
← Or to save you both a lot of wasted time messing round with raw wikicoding; go to Special:Preferences, select the "Gadgets" tab and check the box for "refTools". From then on, when you want to add a reference just click the "cite" button on the toolbar above the edit box and fill in the relevant boxes. Trust me, you'll be glad you did. – iridescent 21:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks to the both of y'all. :-) BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 22:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Try giving it a go, the article is gunna need sourcing, we might as well do it right, that way you can get it to GA! :-) — Realist 22:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's gonna be hard for me since some of the stuff I got was from Google Books, so it's hard to cite the title, I guess I could call it Pg. 12 or something, lol. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 22:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- The title isn't majorly important, use the book title as the title. The main thing is you have a relable source :-) — Realist 22:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's gonna be hard for me since some of the stuff I got was from Google Books, so it's hard to cite the title, I guess I could call it Pg. 12 or something, lol. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 22:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Go check the page, I've cited the web sites for SOME of the sources, it all came from the same site, but I wanted to let you see the bottom, lol. I can cite from All Music once I get the addresses to the pages right there. ;) BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 22:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Good job. I removed the first name of that guy. It will only display in the source if you include the first and second name of the writer. If you only fill in one part it remains invisible on the article. As they don't appear to give a full name I just removed it as the reader can't see the first name anyway. Great otherwise. Try the others then we can start sourcing the other stuff. — Realist 22:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I've pasted the reference on the same sentences where I originally got it from. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 22:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Great, that list is starting to neaten out, now do the other web links. If the web link doesn't provide the info just leave that detail out. — Realist 22:45, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Funny, I was just doing that, lol. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 22:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Try giving it a go, the article is gunna need sourcing, we might as well do it right, that way you can get it to GA! :-) — Realist 22:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Coaching
Okay, I'll create a page and we can get started. Useight (talk) 21:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Cheers. — Realist 21:10, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I started a page with a few questions at User:Realist2/Editor Coaching. Feel free to answer those questions whenever you get a chance. Useight (talk) 21:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
RE: Criteria
Haha yeah, it's always been an unofficial part of my criteria (I've only 'officially' had one less than a week) so I thought I'd make my thoughts clear on a user subpage :) I don't think my article building is quite as stringent as yours though ;) But tbh, I really like your article criteria, it encourages potential admins who can also write decent articles! —] (] · ]) 23:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- What use is an admin who can't format a reference :0. But seriously, I think it is a very important issue. Hope your criteria isn't bloodied to death like mine. — Realist 23:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Luckily I'm still at the stage on Misplaced Pages where people know of me but rarely care what I do. Things like my RfA criteria don't get much look in ;) Fancy collaborating on an article sometime? I'm sure we can find something that interests us both. —] (] · ]) 23:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, why not, sounds fun. At the moment I have Thriller (album) at FAC, I've begun a couching process with an Admin and I'm moving home soon. So I'm VERY busy. I'm literally going to have to schedule you in, lol, I need to slow down. I'll look at your contributions and see if anything catches my eye as interesting and you do likewise. — Realist 23:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh I know the feeling, sounds like a good idea to me. Feel free to get in touch if you find something you like, if I do I'll comment again here. Your page has made in onto my watchlist, congratulations! Haha. —] (] · ]) 23:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. If you want I'll help a little at FAC and do some copyediting here and there to speed up getting Thriller to FAC. After that, vitilgo sounds like a good idea to me. :) —] (] · ]) 08:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good, will give you a bell if I need any help with Thriller. I think I can handle most issues for now. Get back to you about vitiligo soon. Cheers — Realist 15:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. If you want I'll help a little at FAC and do some copyediting here and there to speed up getting Thriller to FAC. After that, vitilgo sounds like a good idea to me. :) —] (] · ]) 08:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh I know the feeling, sounds like a good idea to me. Feel free to get in touch if you find something you like, if I do I'll comment again here. Your page has made in onto my watchlist, congratulations! Haha. —] (] · ]) 23:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, why not, sounds fun. At the moment I have Thriller (album) at FAC, I've begun a couching process with an Admin and I'm moving home soon. So I'm VERY busy. I'm literally going to have to schedule you in, lol, I need to slow down. I'll look at your contributions and see if anything catches my eye as interesting and you do likewise. — Realist 23:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Luckily I'm still at the stage on Misplaced Pages where people know of me but rarely care what I do. Things like my RfA criteria don't get much look in ;) Fancy collaborating on an article sometime? I'm sure we can find something that interests us both. —] (] · ]) 23:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Ronald Presley
Can you take a look at that page it is a little strange the category is actually a page. Let me know what going on there.66.108.111.112 (talk) 23:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's a little bizarre, yes, it needs a clean up but it's still a legitimate category. Fix the category itself if you have an issue with it. — Realist 23:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Page was deleted as it was found non-notable.66.108.111.112 (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Garofalo, pgs. 261–262
- Marvin Gaye
- Marvin Gaye