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MP redesign proposal coding fixes implemented

I've implemented the coding fixes for you at your request (User talk:ChyranandChloe), though it would have been a lot easier if you told me to do so two weeks ago when I offered it. Nevertheless the major fixes are in place, though I still recommend that you clean up and revise your code (for example: you closed more tables than you opened, wikipedia isn't suppose to allow the h2 tag WP:HTML, you shouldn't need to add a margin each time just to align your boxes, the top three sections doesn't even make sense, and so on). In aestetics Misplaced Pages doesn't use a white (#FFFFFF) background because it supposedly irritates or provokes people, instead it uses a slight blue-green color (#F8FCFF).

This is your ideas, and your entry, good luck. ChyranandChloe (talk) 02:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Clue request

Hi, Ryan - I don't remember if I've interacted with you before, but quite a few people (either by talk page post or e-mail) drew my attention to this. Not a big deal, but if you'd like to offer any examples or any advice as to where I could find one, I'd love to hear it. Kelly 23:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Ping. Kelly 21:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Our convo at ANi

Well, please accept my apologies then. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

NO! I will do no such thing. Beam 16:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The reason I won't accept your apology, is because there was no need for such a thing. Just a simple misunderstanding or mis comprehension. Just knowing you see your mistake is fine with me buddy. Beam 16:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response - I just wanted to make it clear that I misunderstood the way you were putting your point across, so my initial response was unfair - hence the apology. I'd seriously take it - I don't give many of them out!! ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 16:18, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

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RfA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, wich was successful with 73 support, 6 oppose, and 5 neutral. I'll try to be as clear as I can in my communication and to clear some of the admin backlog on images. If there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page! Cheers, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thankspam

Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoy_adds 19:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RfB Thank You spam

Thank you for participating in my RfB! I am very grateful for the confidence of the community shown at my RfB, which passed by a count of 154/7/2 (95.65%). I have read every word of the RfB and taken it all to heart. I truly appreciate everyone's input: supports, opposes, neutrals, and comments. Of course, I plan to conduct my cratship in service of the community. If you have any advice, questions, concerns, or need help, please let me know. Again, Thanks! — Rlevse • Talk • 08:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

My RFC

If I have abused the administrative tools, then an RFC should be filed. Don't let a thing like me not having the tools get in the way. Sceptre 16:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Stop trolling sir. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

To quote Heath Ledger, why so serious? RFC/U is the appendix of Misplaced Pages - had some use in the past, but we don't know what it is, and it's now dangerous and not taken seriously. Sceptre 16:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Testing

Looks fine so far. I am obliged to you, sir. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah good - I usually stink at removing autoblocks! You're a sensible guy - just stay out of trouble! ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 02:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I am working from a different computer, unfortunately; but I can check the other one tom'w if you're interested.

Would you consider imposing tags? The dispute is real, and tags may attract third parties to the discussion. (If not, oh well; but that would be my only motive to meddle with the text.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I really can't because there seems to be a strong consensus against them. Why don't you start an RfC? I think that could get some good neutral input. Ryan Postlethwaite 02:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

done. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Get specific

Give me the specifics. Somehow I think the libel suit would have been filed closer to Feb. 22, when the New York Times website published this. Get your facts straight. See the last section on the Talk:Barack Obama page. Note that the discussion has ended. Noroton (talk) 02:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I take it the silence from your end is because you're conscientiously going through the sources to see that I've backed up what I've said, and therefore my comments about this WP:WELLKNOWN figure can't be described as "unsourced or poorly sourced". Or, alternately, you'll tell me specifically what specific statement I shouldn't have made and specifically why. If you can't back up your templating my talk page with a large warning, I expect you to remove it and give me an apology for bothering me, which is why I'm holding my temper. It's late where I am, and I'm going to bed. I take it you're in the U.K. I shouldn't have to have that template on my talk page much longer without a full explanation. Noroton (talk) 05:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Now that your back to editing, will you respond to my request for clarification or do I need to complain about your conduct elsewhere? Noroton (talk) 18:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

It was this post where you specifically labelled ayers a terrorist. You didn't back that up with a single source to back that up. "Ayers fits the definition of terrorist to a "T" and was called a terrorist before the Obama campaign and even before 2001. Ayers flouted not just laws but democratic rule in the U.S. -- he wanted to terrorize people into submission." is simply unaccepable. You can't make claims like that about someone, even on a talk page, without a reliable source that says he's a terrorist. You did the same in this post as well - made claims without backing them up. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you read the thread as a whole or know the background. The issue of including Bill Ayers has come up before on Talk:Barack Obama and I assumed discussion participants were aware of the sourcing that does, in fact, exist. Should I have provided the sourcing immediately? I suppose so, now that I think about it, but by the time you saw the AN/I posting, I had provided numerous sources in that thread which specifically backed up my statements. Also, the sources I've read in the press gave me the clear impression that nothing I was saying was exceptional -- kind of like criticizing George Bush on a talk page. If you had simply asked or even told me that I must provide the sourcing as per WP:BLP, I would have immediately done so (or, in this case, simply referred you to the specific sources I'd already provided in the thread).

Please go over the thread itself, not just individual links to individual posts, and tell me where I've made statements that aren't backed up by sourcing. Please tell me if you don't see sourcing for the specific comment you just said "is simply unacceptable". If you find anything that I've said that you still don't think is sourced, I'll either find a source for you or remove the comment. Noroton (talk) 20:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Edit warring and page protection for WP:FRINGE

You described the situation on WP:FRINGE as serious edit warring. Since I seemed to have triggered it with an attempt to use WP:BGD to generate discussion. I'm not sure I agree with your description of the reverts going on as "serious edit warring". Please walk me through how you came to that conclusion so that I can understand better your rationale?

My original expectation was that a third party editor would revert my changes or there would be discussion generated, rather than a flurry of back and forth reverts. Did the editors not read the talk page? Did I make a bad assumption that made the situation worse? HatlessAtless (talk) 03:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

(sorry this was half a day delayed, I somehow read in the edit summaries and such that a different user had protected the page) —Preceding unsigned comment added by HatlessAtlas (talk • contribs) 11:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Your signature

I haven't seen you sign with this signature for well over a year now. :D Acalamari 16:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, yeah I decided to go back to the old one. I like it, but everyone on IRC says they hate it! Oh well, as long as I'm happy! Ryan Postlethwaite 16:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't hate it: I always liked it. :) I'm glad it's back. Acalamari 16:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Add me to the list of people who dislike it :-) —Giggy 02:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

It's bloody amazing giggy! What would you know any way!?! 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If it fills my screen, you know it's good. —Giggy 03:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

For my own clarity

Just for my own clarity, if/when Wikiarrangementeditor decides to violate 3RR after his current block is listed for the 5th time in the last several months, should it continue to be reported at AN3RR or would it be advised to escalate it to ANI? Thanks! roguegeek (talk·cont) 17:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Just keep on reporting it to AN/3RR - that's where all 3RR complaints are dealt with. If it comes a serious concern, the reviewing admin can move the report to AN/I (such as if/when a ban/editing restriction might be proposed). Ryan Postlethwaite 17:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. roguegeek (talk·cont) 17:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The block log shows it as "infinite", I assume this is a mistake and it should be 48 hours? --Snigbrook 18:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Oops yeah, thanks for spotting that. I've corrected it now. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:23, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Just to remind you

that Noroton and Curious bystander are eagerly awaiting counselling on the specifics (in re: to why you thought they needed the BLP warning or what they did wrong). When (and if) you do counsel them, per the remedy itself, you might also need to include what steps they need to take to avoid such vios in the future. I was considering giving it a shot, but it's too late for me now, so I'm leaving it to you...have fun. :D (or try to!) - Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm in uni now so I'm trying to do things that don't need much explanation (I need to concentrate on my work!) but I'm leaving soon, so when I get home, I'll get stuck in with that. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

VP

It was worth a try, with good faith; but clearly, he made his choice. Thanks for keeping an eye on the situation. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 03:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering, was a ban really necessary, considering that the one and only edit by the editor to Pedophilia simply corrected text anomalies? ~ Homologeo (talk) 07:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey there Homologeo. The ban really was necessary - he was unblocked under a firm understanding that he would not edit pedophile articles, yet within 15 edits, he chose to break that, and showed complete disregard to the terms of unblock. I was very happy to see him back, provided he stayed completely out of pedophile articles, it's sad that he chose to go down a different route. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Blink

Thanks for your help with that image. What an awesome freakin' episode. Cirt (talk) 03:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

No probs, I just saw your notification pop up on my watchlist and I went to see if we could sort it out without deleting. Not a big fan of any FU though if I'm being honest. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, well FU in general is another matter, but regardless thanks for the help! Cheers, Cirt (talk) 20:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

How WP:CIV works

Remember the content of the emails I fwd to you? See what others think about such behavior. There are I days I fear for this project... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

If I was you, I'd just ignore him. The guys obviously trolling and looking for a response - no need to feed him IMHO. I agree it's not the most civil, maybe a year ago we could have put down the ban hammer for that, but unfortunately times have changed and some admins class WP:CIVIL as more of a guideline than the official policy that it is. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The trend to disregard CIV is, IMHO, one of the biggest threats to the future of this project. However, there are also positive trends: consider Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren#Discretionary_sanctions. I would think that for those trolling emails, Boody should at the very least be put on the warning list there. What do you think about that? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 04:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)