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	Hello Arbiteroftruth! I'm rather confused by your outside view on this RfC: "''we have to show EVERYONE that sockpuppetry will only bring forward their end on Misplaced Pages.''" - Posturewriter hasn't been accused of sockpuppetry. He made an accusation that another user was using a sock puppet (which is one of the complaints against him at the RfC), was that what you were getting at? Apologies if I'm being dense here! Happy editing. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)		Hello Arbiteroftruth! I'm rather confused by your outside view on this RfC: "''we have to show EVERYONE that sockpuppetry will only bring forward their end on Misplaced Pages.''" - Posturewriter hasn't been accused of sockpuppetry. He made an accusation that another user was using a sock puppet (which is one of the complaints against him at the RfC), was that what you were getting at? Apologies if I'm being dense here! Happy editing. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

			: Sorry still lost here! "''He is accused of using a sock account, and we can't stand for that.''" Posturewriter (whose RfC it is) is not accused of using a sock account. The only mention of sock puppetry in this RfC is Posturewriter accusing WhatamIdoing and Gordonofcartoon, two of the editors bringing the RfC against Posturewriter, of being socks. This accusation with minimal proof is one of the things that Gordonofcartoon is complaining about with the RfC and, while totally out of order, I don't feel merits a block but an apology. Just to say again, nobody has accused Posturewriter of having a sock account. ] doesn't even appear in the relevant policies and guidelines section. If I'm making a mistake here, just point me to it! Thanks, ]<sup>]</sup> 10:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Venue suggestion needed for a meet-up in Yuen Long

Dear: Kiteinthewind/Archive 3 ：

In the past meet-ups, we always had our meeting in the centre of Kowloon, either Kowloon Tong or Mong Kok. However, apart from these places, I am sure that alternative venues in other region would be suitable.

This is the time for your suggestion! According to some discussion on Chinese Misplaced Pages, from August of 2007, the Hong Kong Wikimedians’ meet-up would be held in all districts of Hong Kong in a circulation basis.

Here is the tentative information of the first meet-up：

Date：11, August, 2007 (Saturday)

Time：After 5:00pm

Proposed region：Yuen Long

The community would request for ideas of where we should hold the meet-up , in order to have a better decision. If you have any good ideas, don’t hesitate to give your opinions, million thanks!

Please don't hesitate to give your good suggestion to us

Regards,

Hong Kong WikimedianSith lord darth vader 16:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:CVU status

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Mongol khans

Hello. I noticed that you moved articles on Mongol khans (e.g. Khutughtu Khan) around June 2007. I sought in vain for your proposal for move. Where did you make a proposal and gain consensus? --Nanshu 00:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It's me who set up the previous naming format (X khan) "to bring some uniformity" (from Chinggis to Ligden). And personally, I don't like the current format because it's verbose and inconsistent with later khans like Dayan Khan. I think it's time to discuss the naming convention. But there is a problem: Where to discuss? Misplaced Pages talk:History standards for China-related articles or Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (Mongolian)? (Welcome to sectionalism!) Maybe Talk:Yuan Dynasty is a compromise. --Nanshu 23:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for my overreaction (Talk:Seoul)

I am sorry for making it sound like you were pushing a POV. In fact, your other addition was very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. Please don't hesitate to add more informations whenever you find them. ^.^; Yongjik 04:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Legislative violence

I removed a large deal of content from Legislative violence relating to Taiwan. Misplaced Pages guidelines state that a) examples should be used to illustrate a point rather than being the bulk of the article (I think 2 major incidents does a good a job as 20 minor ones) and b) undue weight should not be given to an issue or side of an issue over others (given that Korea only has one entry and that Australia has none I think we can agree that the section on Taiwan was, by this definition, overly lengthy). Perhaps you could consider implementing some change to the original article on the Chinese wikipedia in adherence to these guidelines. Just thought I'd let you know 58.164.33.106 12:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Greetings. I noticed you templated Videmus Omnia to warn him not to make personal attacks. I haven't known Videmus Omnia to act that way, in my experience. Could you provide me a link of where he made a personal attack? Thanks, – Quadell 00:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

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My Revert on the Current Events Page

I assumed that you made a good faith edit. I just couldn't figure out what you were doing. --Elliskev 12:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

AIV

Colorwolf only has one edit, to his own page, today and 203 none. This doesn't fit AIV criteria. My suggestion is to rm from AIV and take to WP:SSP with as much detail as possible, with diffs, on why you think it's a sock. Rlevse 16:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you think LongPeanutButter is a sock of Colorwolf? If so, report per Rlevse above, because the user hasn't vandalized since final warning was given. I can block on proof of sock, so if you have anything conclusive, drop me a note... Dreadstar † 03:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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Kayla Nebeker Karhohs

Hi Kenny, I agree that this subject is not notable, but I would urge you to use more considerate language in such AfDs. Regular editors of Misplaced Pages will understand what you mean when you say "was, still is, and forever will be non-notable person", but it is possible that the creator of this page is someone who was close to Ms Karhohs, and does not understand the technical use of non-notable, in which case your wording could be very upsetting. How about something on the lines of "subject does not qualify for inclusion under WP:BIO"? Phil Bridger (talk) 13:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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Vandalism warning to User_talk:207.138.65.1

This is a large corporations IP. I would recommend not banning it... although there isn't much I can do to track down whoelse in the company might be pwning the wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.138.65.1 (talk) 21:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I prefer escalated warnings as per Misplaced Pages:Template messages/User talk namespace#Multi-level templates - specifically because if upholds WP:AGF guideline. Note though I have no qualms though about blocking persistent vandals - this user (or users of this IP) has yet to demonstrate persistance in vandalism. The edits I have been discussing with him/her are not vandalism but a different point of view. --Matilda 00:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

- I noticed that your edit history showed using an escalated template in several instances so thought you might not be aware of the multi-level template system - apologies for any offence that might have been caused. Regards Matilda 04:45, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
  - I believed that both the edit summary and the context of my previous, now refactored, note made it clear that the warnings were illustrative and not directed at you. I do remain concerned that you do not understand your warnings are in general pitched at an inapproriate level and breach WP:AGF. Of yourlast 50 edits to the User talk name space, at least 14 appear to be escalated warnings with no use of multi-level templates before hand - haven't comprehensively researched your edits (have better things to do). Your warning to this user in particular caught my eye (because I reverted to replace your warning) and I thought it over the top. Please reconsider. Note also your advice to User:LighteningKid "Removing warnings are prohibited" is not strictly correct - you perhaps need also to familiarise yourself with Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines : On your own user talk page, you may remove comments from others . You are of course welcome to remove my comments too! --Matilda 06:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Pop music

Hey, Arbiteroftruth, I'd like to ask for a favour in your capacity as Chinese-English translator. I'm working on a complete re-write of Pop music and when I recently moved the text from my sandbox to the article, the format of the link to the Chinese-language Misplaced Pages was lost. I don't have Chinese fonts on my system so am unable to fix it myself, would you be as kind as to correct it for me when you have the time? You can go straight to the appropriate section here. Thank you very much. ↔ Dennywuh (talk) 15:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your time, and for your encouraging comment. ↔ Dennywuh (talk) 11:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Hi, I've removed your request for User:PowerClown123 to be blocked as he has not edited since 17 November. As he is not active, please make a request on WP:SSP. Thanks , Nakon 07:16, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Traditional Chinese

Hi, while you are most welcome to edit Singapore-related articles such as The Golden Path (drama), please do not add Chinese script in traditional characters as they are not used in Singapore. Thanks!--Huaiwei (talk) 07:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale Mac_Book_Air_Leopard

Agreed, the image is replaceable... but not until product release, please hold off on deletion until after product release. Johndbritton (talk) 19:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

ColourWolf

I'll keep an eye on the The Golden Path (drama) page and see if the user decides to show up again.. If he does, I'll request a checkuser to have his IP blocked so he won't be able to make any more accounts. Come find me if he shows up again elsewhere and I'll see what I can do. Cowman109 07:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I had already blocked User:PowerClown123 indefinitely as another blatant sock.. I don't see any evidence that suggests he is otherwise. Cowman109 17:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Golden Path (drama)‎ . Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Barry m (talk) 07:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC) Warning was made in error.

Sorry about that, seems you were in the right. Is there a way of preventing account creation for True article for Honour and Passion?? Barry m (talk) 07:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Apology for the Alleged Edit War

Sorry Arbiteroftruth. I was the one who had reported you and HostileToVandals. I did not realize that the edit war was just an attempt to stop an abusive sockpuppet from making disruptive edits. --Salona (talk) 07:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Your RFR

User:Kushan I.A.K.J/New Rollbacks School/Welcome

Your Welcome! Keep on reverting Vandalism!--Kushan I.A.K.J 05:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Juggernaut999, Other Affairs

Re your message: I'm not familiar with that particular sockpuppeteer, though it does sound vaguely familiar. With the account being inactive for so long, WP:ANI is not the appropriate place to report it. Instead, you should report it to WP:SSP.

As for your question about adminship, I remember you asking me about this last year and I think my comments then still apply now. I think you should find some part of Misplaced Pages that interests you where an admin work is required, such as RC patrolling, deletion discussions, policy discussions, etc. I think your assistance with ColourWolf is good, but you need to expand beyond him and his sockpuppets. Perhaps help with other sockpuppet reports? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/ColourWolf

I moved the RFCU case you opened to its proper name (we keep all requests about a puppeteer on a single page). -- lucasbfr , checkuser clerk, 09:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC).

Good job

...on ColourWolf. I wasn't trying to be an ass, but I simply didn't know those plots. I've not seen many films in that genre and your analysis (plus the results of the CU) were very helpful. Thanks for helping to keep people accountable for their actions when they are in violation.

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		I *— BQZip01* — hereby bestow this barnstar upon Arbiteroftruth for his excellent edits in preventing sockpuppetry. Keep up the good work! — BQZip01 —** 02:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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Culture of Egypt

Mind if I ask why my deletion of some content in that article was reverted? I did give an explanation in my edit summaries. The article is of course in a pretty bad state but I don't think that warrants keeping around what I deleted. Sincerely. 3rdAlcove (talk) 17:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem, sorry for starting the section as well. Too much reverting by POV-pushers just makes you cranky and you take it out on random people. ;) 3rdAlcove (talk) 20:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Clarification?

On 27 January 2008, you posted a vandalism warning on my talk page. What edits were you referring to? Strdst grl (talk) 18:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, it looked like vandalism. I thought you'd just blanked the page - now I can see you split it into a new article. Please summarise your edit next time! Strdst grl (talk) 15:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

AIV report of 222.165.6.132

This IP hasn't edited for a number of hours and definitely not since the last warning you gave, so I had to delete the report. Jauerback/_dude. 14:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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What did I do? RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the Dishpan!) 02:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That's old news. It's been dealt with. Please see ]. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the Dishpan!) 02:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

ColourWolf Sockpuppetry

Very interesting. I've observed that you have reverted/deleted all the negative viewpoints of Singapore Misplaced Pages articles that the supposed ColourWolf user have voiced out. Is that good discussion on improving the integrity of Misplaced Pages? Isn't that what you are protecting as you voiced out to Administrators months ago?

Like I said, it doesn't matter I'm ColourWolf or not. I'm a Nosey Fellow who has nothing better to do other than reading articles, and happened to see the war of truth between you and ColourWolf which got pretty amusing - Both disputed contents and the war itself. You have no concrete evidence of suspecting me, and you probably never will.

I could simply give the reason for posting in that SGpedian section: I was bored and my hands itch at seeing how you refused to give thought to the idea of deleting those content-less Singapore articles. Have a nice day. Nosey Fellow (talk) 03:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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Change to Len Munsil's Page

Arbiteroftruth: I noticed that you recently removed the reference on the Len Munsil page that divulged Munsil's position as an adjunct professor at Southwestern College. Why is that?

-AcademicForbearance —Preceding unsigned comment added by AcademicForbearance (talk • contribs) 05:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet?

Hiya. What's this about me being a sockpuppet? I looked at the checkuser page or whatever it's called and other than the fact this guy's used the name RedEyes at some point there isn't anything connecting us, as I've never edited the articles he was messing around with. Do I need to take any specific steps to prove my independence or anything? Thanks. EvilRedEye (talk) 15:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Uncyclopedia FA Nom

Basically, your arguement revolves around the idea that giving the article on Uncyclopedia any recognition will give vandals recognition. That is not the case. If we followed WP:DENY completely, any website that harboured Misplaced Pages vandals would never get an article. Uncyclopedia is perfectly notable, as has been proven from its nine AFDs (~~many of which~~ one of which ~~were~~ was started by you, I believe). By attempting to follow WP:DENY completely, you're just contradicting yourself by violating WP:Notability. Rules are in place for a reason, and I don't usually ignore them unless neccesary, but following them threadbare won't get anything done. And by bringing in "the spirit of the rule", you're using WP:WL as your backbone, which is not a policy, it is an essay, so none of us are obliged to follow it.

Secondly, you did launch an attack. I quote from FAC: "Uncyclopedia editors have done nothing but creating damage and destruction on Misplaced Pages". Does that sound neutral? Not to me. It sounds like you're giving a blatant attack on Uncyclopedia editors. I cannot allow that, so of course I retailiated. I did not violate WP:AGF, I felt that there was evidence to the contrary- after it had been proven MANY TIMES that the article in question was notable, you ~~continued to~~ nominated it for deletion. As per my previous arguements, WP:DENY and WP:WL will not work in this case. Teh Rote (talk) 22:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

That was a simple mistake, no need to accuse me of anything. I have talked to a third-party editor about this and hopefully this dispute can be resolved with additional help. Teh Rote (talk) 01:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, it's cool. Mind if I remove the CAPS LOCK AND BOLD from your messages? :D Teh Rote (talk) 14:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. KnightLago (talk) 01:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Something you've said has been quoted!--Otterathome (talk) 12:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Mass Sockpuppet Problem

Re your message: I'm not a checkuser, so I can't help with that. Sorry. You will have to wait until one of the checkuser admins can look into it. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Thatcher is a checkuser. Since he has access to the checkuser results and I do not, you will need to ask him why he did not apply any blocks. For the same reason, I would prefer to defer to Thatcher in this particular case. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:50, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Re:Article Split proposal, Republic of China

I conditionally concur with your proposed Split, on grounds of available information on the ROC pre- and post-1949. Fr.Misplaced Pages.org kept pre-1949 stuff in the original Article fr:République de Chine and moved later material to fr:République de Chine (Taiwan), an alternate approach to your proposal. An alternate approach would be the concentration of post-1949 material in a new Article Republic of China (Taiwan), with the pre-1949 (incl. the government structure under the Zūn Zhōngshān and Jiǎng Jièshí Administrations) data kept at the existing Republic of China Article. Recommend redirect Chinese Taipei, used without international diplomatic circles, to the post-1949 Article. B. C. Schmerker (talk) 07:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Names of Census Articles

I have opened a discussion at Talk:United States Census, 2000#Requested move about renaming all the year-specific US Census articles. I see that you are active on the Census 2000 article, so I am requesting your input. -Rrius (talk) 06:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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Check out your edits. See all those red bars? Use edit summaries! Go to your "preferences" at the top of the page, click "editing" then check the bottom box "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary". You need good experience in the areas where admins are active. I see you've contributed to WP:AN/WP:AN/I and WP:AIV. Experience in *fD is helpful, e.g. WP:AFD being the main one. Read through past applications, successful and unsuccessful, at WP:RFA to get an idea of what is expected and what is disapproved of. You might like to check out Misplaced Pages:Admin coaching. Ty 23:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Userfy Template:Arbiteroftruth/hk-fam2

Greetings. Please move Template:Arbiteroftruth/hk-fam2 and any other personal templates that you have created into your user pages. Template:Arbiteroftruth/hk-fam2 does not support encyclopedic content, so it is not really appropriate for the template namespace. You can still use the template as before once you move it, either directly by typing {{User:Arbiteroftruth/YourNewPagename}} along with any parameters when using it on your user pages, or by using {{subst}} with the appropriate syntax and parameters when using it in other namespaces. Thanks. --Thetrick (talk) 03:51, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you for your recent report to AIV. After investigating the situation, the edits in question strike me as being classic newbie mistakes, so I have declined your block request. Unfortunately for Ab3214 (talk · contribs), he or she received neither an assumption of good faith nor a friendly helping hand, but instead appears to have been bitten with {{uw-npa4im}} and {{uw-vandalism4}} warnings. Additionally you may wish to redact these comments as they appear to be extremely incivil and border on being an outright personal attack. I know how frustrating it can be to work around a new editor's lack of understanding as to the ways and methods of Misplaced Pages, but everyone starts out ignorant as to the rules and it is up to the rest of us to help educate them. --Kralizec! (talk) 02:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

No worries ... we all have bad days and I absolutely agree with you about how exhausting socks can be. Regardless, thank you! for being so positive and pleasant to work with. Too many editors lack your level-head judgement and capacity for introspection, and instead go ballistic when someone has the audacity to tell them that they may have jumped the AGF gun. Kudos to you, sir! --Kralizec! (talk) 03:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning!

I was trying to cleave as closely as possible to authoritative sourcing on the IndyMac thing, given the hulabaloo and the fact that I was pretty darn sloppy when I first edited.

Just for future reference, where do you think I went past "fair use"???--Dlawbailey (talk) 22:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

RFC/User on Posturewriter

Hello Arbiteroftruth! I'm rather confused by your outside view on this RfC: "we have to show EVERYONE that sockpuppetry will only bring forward their end on Misplaced Pages." - Posturewriter hasn't been accused of sockpuppetry. He made an accusation that another user was using a sock puppet (which is one of the complaints against him at the RfC), was that what you were getting at? Apologies if I'm being dense here! Happy editing. Avnjay 18:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry still lost here! "He is accused of using a sock account, and we can't stand for that." Posturewriter (whose RfC it is) is not accused of using a sock account. The only mention of sock puppetry in this RfC is Posturewriter accusing WhatamIdoing and Gordonofcartoon, two of the editors bringing the RfC against Posturewriter, of being socks. This accusation with minimal proof is one of the things that Gordonofcartoon is complaining about with the RfC and, while totally out of order, I don't feel merits a block but an apology. Just to say again, nobody has accused Posturewriter of having a sock account. WP:SOCK doesn't even appear in the relevant policies and guidelines section. If I'm making a mistake here, just point me to it! Thanks, Avnjay 10:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)