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	The person who created this article has already placed this information, plucked verbatim from a book, on the Beit Jala page. The material was contested and removed several times from that page as non-notable, garbled, and put there to deliberately to stir up controversy. Wikpedia is not a garbage dump. The creation of this article follows a pattern that this editor has employed several times, which is to begin new articles with material that has been rejected. I vote for deletion.--] (]) 17:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)		The person who created this article has already placed this information, plucked verbatim from a book, on the Beit Jala page. The material was contested and removed several times from that page as non-notable, garbled, and put there to deliberately to stir up controversy. Wikpedia is not a garbage dump. The creation of this article follows a pattern that this editor has employed several times, which is to begin new articles with material that has been rejected. I vote for deletion.--] (]) 17:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
	:I agree with many of your concerns. I suggest that you reinstate the AfD notice and create an AfD sub-page to involve the general Misplaced Pages audience in this, because I don't think we will get anywhere arguing on this talk page. If you do not take this course of action, I will not pursue it either and instead work on improving the article. -- ] <sup>(])</sup> 18:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)		:I agree with many of your concerns. I suggest that you reinstate the AfD notice and create an AfD sub-page to involve the general Misplaced Pages audience in this, because I don't think we will get anywhere arguing on this talk page. If you do not take this course of action, I will not pursue it either and instead work on improving the article. -- ] <sup>(])</sup> 18:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

			::Actually, I keep promising to stay away from articles that only end up in edit wars with pathetic people who think they can rewrite the history of the world on the strength of some book they have at home. I don't believe this particular article is worthy of anyone's time. It is a "cut & paste" and most probably a copyright violation.--] (]) 19:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

	== Benny Morris: Israel's Border Wars ==		== Benny Morris: Israel's Border Wars ==

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Why the removal of 1952. The date gave the significance. As it is the first major reprisal raid. Also it's not in IsraelAshley kennedy3 (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the move, assuming that's what you're talking about. It's not about the importance of the year, it's about clear Misplaced Pages guidelines called Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions. -- Ynhockey 16:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Article for deletion

The person who created this article has already placed this information, plucked verbatim from a book, on the Beit Jala page. The material was contested and removed several times from that page as non-notable, garbled, and put there to deliberately to stir up controversy. Wikpedia is not a garbage dump. The creation of this article follows a pattern that this editor has employed several times, which is to begin new articles with material that has been rejected. I vote for deletion.--Gilabrand (talk) 17:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with many of your concerns. I suggest that you reinstate the AfD notice and create an AfD sub-page to involve the general Misplaced Pages audience in this, because I don't think we will get anywhere arguing on this talk page. If you do not take this course of action, I will not pursue it either and instead work on improving the article. -- Ynhockey 18:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I keep promising to stay away from articles that only end up in edit wars with pathetic people who think they can rewrite the history of the world on the strength of some book they have at home. I don't believe this particular article is worthy of anyone's time. It is a "cut & paste" and most probably a copyright violation.--Gilabrand (talk) 19:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Benny Morris: Israel's Border Wars

This seems to be an important source, but Google Books doesn't have a preview of pages 214-215, which have the bulk of the information on the incident, as far as I can tell. Can someone provide me these pages? Right now I'm reworking parts of this articles based on Morris. -- Ynhockey 18:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Names of the officers involved

This article talks at great lengths about the officers involved in this affair, although it only mentions their last names and ranks. If the full names of the officers cannot be established, and notability cannot be asserted, I think that their mentions should be kept to a minimum, once or twice at the most in the entire article. -- Ynhockey 19:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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