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: Let's clearly analyze your edit shall we ? is your edit. You reference the 1700 death with . Clearly, you just pointed out . While your second citation has casualty figure from 2002 - 2007 it does not have any detail on 2008 figures. If you are going to add the so called "confirmed casualty", then you will be clearly violating ]. Therefore you can only cite the casualty figure up until 2007. Furthermore, go ahead and read ]. The claim you are making, the casualty figure of a security force, is an exceptional claim. Any exceptional claim needs exceptional sources. So unless you can find a reference on a scholar/book or a highly regarded news website you cannot add this. If you can find a reference from the Sri Lankan Military for their own casualty figure, then you can add that. ] (]) 04:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC) : Let's clearly analyze your edit shall we ? is your edit. You reference the 1700 death with . Clearly, you just pointed out . While your second citation has casualty figure from 2002 - 2007 it does not have any detail on 2008 figures. If you are going to add the so called "confirmed casualty", then you will be clearly violating ]. Therefore you can only cite the casualty figure up until 2007. Furthermore, go ahead and read ]. The claim you are making, the casualty figure of a security force, is an exceptional claim. Any exceptional claim needs exceptional sources. So unless you can find a reference on a scholar/book or a highly regarded news website you cannot add this. If you can find a reference from the Sri Lankan Military for their own casualty figure, then you can add that. ] (]) 04:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
::please do not remove the sourced info unilaterally, without ]. --] (]) 13:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC) ::please do not remove the sourced info unilaterally, without ]. --] (]) 13:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Listen man I cann't add the reference for 2008 because it is being updated regulary on Yahoo news and Yahoo news articles cann't be used in Misplaced Pages because those links go dead after a few weaks but the number is there check it for yourself you sceptic.]

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I just sorted the paragraphs of the article back into chronological order. i.e. the "Eelam War II" occurred before the 2002 peace process. Also, for example parts like "Just days after Prabhakaran's speech" were orphaned due to the changes made to the article (what speech?) so it'll be nice if we could discuss things before making any major changes. --snowolfD4 14:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Article needs to be confined to the Civil War

We need to have this article confined to the civil War.Major Killing which influenced the Civil War in a political or Military sense only should be highlighted here.Rajini Thiranagama has a separate article feel her killing was not a major event in the context of the Sri Lankan Civil War and adding details about her and her picture is not necessary here.Harlowraman 20:44, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Most of the said incidents here has separate articles. Rajini Thiranagama's incident is one of the turning points of the civil war(I prefer terrorist war)as it gave a wake up call to some of the tamil intellectuals who at that point was blindly following LTTE. This incident shows, how the tamil people were deceived, till that time, by this so called freedom fighters who were allegedly protecting tamils from the mythical persecution under the Sinhalese government. If anything Her killing is a vital point of the War, along with the 1983 riots,1987 Aranthalawa massacre,1987 Indo-SL peace agreement and etc. So please don't remove this just because you don't like it personally. Iwazaki 09:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to say I disagree with you more important people like Ranjan Wijeratne (defence minister had a military impact) ,Amirthalingam, have been killed and they are more notable than Rajini Thiranagama the list in endless actually sorry we cannot add everybody here .The reaction to there deaths was international whereas her death was not even local and she was not major Tamil leader her only major contribution was the formation of UTHR nothing else and no author or article has described her or her killing as having a major impact.Please correct me if I am missing something.She was a ex LTTE cadre.Really feel she is not notable to be added in the Civil War article nothing personal .Anyway not removing it till the debate is over.Harlowraman 11:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

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Overly long 'origins' section

I have moved much of the Origins section over to the Origins of the Sri Lankan civil war article where it does not crowd the article so much. Even so, this article is now 88K long whereas I believe the guideline is 32K. The recent events also need articles of their own. Tyronen (talk) 06:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Casualty figures

The casualty figure that has been put forth by a user since 2002 is not backed by RS. The QS given as citation only give casualty figures for 2006 and 2007 time line with nothing being mentioned about 2008- the bloodiest year since the cease fire. Furthermore, nothing is mentioned about 2003,2004 and 2005. Please give due respect for WP:SYNTH and note that you cannot synthesize things that are given in citations like adding and such. Watchdogb (talk) 02:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes numbers for 2005 are given, also check every news article that comes out these days about the fighting in Sri Lanka, they all state the updated numbers given by the Ministry of Defence about their casualties for 2008. Don't start an edit war. Top Gun

Same to you. Please provide citation that back you claim and we can all be off editing. The citation that was given as reference does not even back up your claims. I just read the article clearly and it does not back you claims. So please prove that your claim is backed by this particular citation. You can do this by copying and pasting the passage on the article that would back the casualty figure you had given. Indeed if this is not possible, then your claim is not backed. Watchdogb (talk) 00:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I realy don't now what your problem is. The more and more you fight this it is becoming obvious that you are not so neutral about this situation as you should be. Also because you are obviously to buisy with something or other and don't check the article properly here is the page within the already given reference that states the numbers for 2000-2005, in addition to the already given 2006-2007. Add to that the 270+ confirmed for this year and you get some 1,700 dead soldiers. It's at the botom of the page so you don't "accidentaly" miss it. The problem here was you should have just checked under Sri Lanka Assessment 2006, before you started an unprovoked edit war.Top Gun

Let's clearly analyze your edit shall we ? This is your edit. You reference the 1700 death with the following article. Clearly, you just pointed out a different article. While your second citation has casualty figure from 2002 - 2007 it does not have any detail on 2008 figures. If you are going to add the so called "confirmed casualty", then you will be clearly violating WP:SYNTH. Therefore you can only cite the casualty figure up until 2007. Furthermore, go ahead and read WP:REDFLAG. The claim you are making, the casualty figure of a security force, is an exceptional claim. Any exceptional claim needs exceptional sources. So unless you can find a reference on a scholar/book or a highly regarded news website you cannot add this. If you can find a reference from the Sri Lankan Military for their own casualty figure, then you can add that. Watchdogb (talk) 04:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
please do not remove the sourced info unilaterally, without consensus. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Listen man I cann't add the reference for 2008 because it is being updated regulary on Yahoo news and Yahoo news articles cann't be used in Misplaced Pages because those links go dead after a few weaks but the number is there check it for yourself you sceptic.Top Gun
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