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:Those are not facts. That's just your opinion. Anyway, living in the country = uncivilized?--] (]) 15:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC) :Those are not facts. That's just your opinion. Anyway, living in the country = uncivilized?--] (]) 15:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I admit that my writing was a little bit injurious, but the earlier sentence what i rewrote is not true also. Nobody represented them in the city council because we could not talk about a Slovak nation before the 16. century according to the Hungarian sources. In the present-day north Slovak cities were Hungarian and German populations mainly in this time. Slovaks lived in villages but this nation is exist from the 16.century only. Slovaks were not uncivilized but they did not live in cities. The typcal occupation of much Slovak was nomad.For example :''drótostót''
Tót means Slovak and drót means wire in old Hungarian language. Thus drótostót means a Slovak with a wire. They travelled from Trencsén (Trencin) and Árva (Orava) and Liptó (Liptovsky) counties to Buda(Pest) or to other Hungarian towns as door to door salesmans that they repair the Hungarian's pot, vessel, bowl or they went to harvest to the ] in summer or they protected sheep and goats in the mountains.] (] • ])

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I assume this edit as little bit interesting. Does the author have some sources that Slavs in those times were uncivilized nomads only? I assume Svetovid's edit more NPOV than this one. ≈Tulkolahten≈ 09:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

"Uncivilized" seems like a vague POV term in the first place.--Svetovid (talk) 10:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Slovak lived in villages mainly, not in cities long ago. Maybe Slovaks aborigines did not live in Zilina because the Slovak nation did not exist yet in the 13. century. The Slovaks are not the Great-Moravian descendants.Only it is a Slav mix from Polishs, Czechs and Rusins. East-Slovak dialect differs very much from the west-Slovak. This is not Hungarian chauvinism because Tulkolahten understands the west-Slovakian dialect easily, but he would take the east Slovakian dialect difficultly. The east-Slovakian dialect similar to the Polish-Goral and Ukrain-Rusin dialect. That is my opinion.Nmate (talkcontribs)

This is your original research and as that it doesn't belong to encyclopedia. ≈Tulkolahten≈ 11:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

These are facts:

Slovak lived in villages mainly, not in cities long ago. Slovak nation did not exist yet in the 13. century.

Nmate (talkcontribs) —Preceding comment was added at 11:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that's a reason to call them "nomad intruder Slav tribes". And if there were no Slovaks in the city, who represented them in the city council? This sounds like a deliberate insult of Slovaks, certainly not suitable for an encyclopedia. Markussep 12:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree, that really doesn't sound good. ≈Tulkolahten≈ 12:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Those are not facts. That's just your opinion. Anyway, living in the country = uncivilized?--Svetovid (talk) 15:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I admit that my writing was a little bit injurious, but the earlier sentence what i rewrote is not true also. Nobody represented them in the city council because we could not talk about a Slovak nation before the 16. century according to the Hungarian sources. In the present-day north Slovak cities were Hungarian and German populations mainly in this time. Slovaks lived in villages but this nation is exist from the 16.century only. Slovaks were not uncivilized but they did not live in cities. The typcal occupation of much Slovak was nomad.For example :drótostót Tót means Slovak and drót means wire in old Hungarian language. Thus drótostót means a Slovak with a wire. They travelled from Trencsén (Trencin) and Árva (Orava) and Liptó (Liptovsky) counties to Buda(Pest) or to other Hungarian towns as door to door salesmans that they repair the Hungarian's pot, vessel, bowl or they went to harvest to the Hungarian Plain in summer or they protected sheep and goats in the mountains.Nmate (talkcontribs)

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