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:Thanks for the comment. Given your experience, then I'm sure you will appreciate why wikipedia wants to reference and cite as many sources as possible for the various claims made in articles. In which case, can I invite you to go through the article and add references for the various claims? If there are any which you feel cannot be verified in this way, then please feel free to mention them here where we can discuss them and decide whether to omit them or not. Many thanks. ] ] 21:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC) :Thanks for the comment. Given your experience, then I'm sure you will appreciate why wikipedia wants to reference and cite as many sources as possible for the various claims made in articles. In which case, can I invite you to go through the article and add references for the various claims? If there are any which you feel cannot be verified in this way, then please feel free to mention them here where we can discuss them and decide whether to omit them or not. Many thanks. ] ] 21:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
==Very high standards==
I contributed an image of Chester's Town Hall and the following brief commonplaces (see ). I received the following post at my Talkpage:
:Hello, and thanks for your additions to ]. In order to help prevent the large amount of unreferenced stuff already in this article get even more out of hand, would it be possible to only add material along with appropriate references to the material? If you are at all unsure how to do this, ], ], and ] will provide some guidance. I hope you can add the references in for the material you have already added, as this will help prevent it being tagged as unreferenced and possibly deleted in the future. Best wishes. ] ] 17:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
::Will the article ] suffice?--] (]) 17:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm afraid not. I don't think one can use wikipedia articles as appropriate referencea for other articles. ] ] 18:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
::::What very high standards for such a mediocre article! Wetman never keeps articles on his Watchlist that are so distinctly "owned", so, that will be all from me at this article. --] (]) 18:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::You are mistaking a request for references for material you entered, which is a legitimate request, as a case of ]. This not only is unfair but is very close to a failure in good faith assumptions (].) And if you think the article is mediocre as it is, then kit will never improve if the attitude you display to a simple, polite request like this is duplicated by others. People should read ] to see the history of this request, which, when taken together with the comments of the editor on the user page displays a strange inconsistency. ] ] 19:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

::::::I agree with DDStretch here. That comment was both baseless (with DD's contributions here accounting for 10% of the article's edit history) and totally uncalled for. From an editor whose been here since 2003, it's hard to believe this kind of incivil contribution has been made by you Wetman, particularly in response to such a reasonable and basic request for ]. Certainly Misplaced Pages articles don't verify Misplaced Pages articles, this is fairly fundamental stuff. Very disappointing. <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- '''] ·''' (])</span> 20:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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  1. The major issue is the absence of References and Citations which are crucial for wikipedia, and so these must be added as the article is expanded. Make sure that as many as possible are "in-line" citations.(See WP:References, WP:V, and WP:CITE for guidance.)

 DDStretch  (talk) 21:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Comment about lack of references

this page may not have lots of refs but it looks pretty good to me (Gordon Emery - author and researcher, 5 Chester books written and 2 by other authors published

Thanks for the comment. Given your experience, then I'm sure you will appreciate why wikipedia wants to reference and cite as many sources as possible for the various claims made in articles. In which case, can I invite you to go through the article and add references for the various claims? If there are any which you feel cannot be verified in this way, then please feel free to mention them here where we can discuss them and decide whether to omit them or not. Many thanks.  DDStretch  (talk) 21:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Very high standards

I contributed an image of Chester's Town Hall and the following brief commonplaces (see diff). I received the following post at my Talkpage:

Hello, and thanks for your additions to History of Chester. In order to help prevent the large amount of unreferenced stuff already in this article get even more out of hand, would it be possible to only add material along with appropriate references to the material? If you are at all unsure how to do this, WP:V, WP:CITE, and WP:References will provide some guidance. I hope you can add the references in for the material you have already added, as this will help prevent it being tagged as unreferenced and possibly deleted in the future. Best wishes.  DDStretch  (talk) 17:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Will the article William Henry Lynn suffice?--Wetman (talk) 17:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm afraid not. I don't think one can use wikipedia articles as appropriate referencea for other articles.  DDStretch  (talk) 18:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
What very high standards for such a mediocre article! Wetman never keeps articles on his Watchlist that are so distinctly "owned", so, that will be all from me at this article. --Wetman (talk) 18:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
You are mistaking a request for references for material you entered, which is a legitimate request, as a case of WP:OWN. This not only is unfair but is very close to a failure in good faith assumptions (WP:AGF.) And if you think the article is mediocre as it is, then kit will never improve if the attitude you display to a simple, polite request like this is duplicated by others. People should read User talk:Wetman to see the history of this request, which, when taken together with the comments of the editor on the user page displays a strange inconsistency.  DDStretch  (talk) 19:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree with DDStretch here. That comment was both baseless (with DD's contributions here accounting for 10% of the article's edit history) and totally uncalled for. From an editor whose been here since 2003, it's hard to believe this kind of incivil contribution has been made by you Wetman, particularly in response to such a reasonable and basic request for verifiability. Certainly Misplaced Pages articles don't verify Misplaced Pages articles, this is fairly fundamental stuff. Very disappointing. -- Jza84 · (talk) 20:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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