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| The section on "posture" isn't working for me. Nobody outside of the The theory looks like it was created by a non-medical person who is trying to reinvent the wheel -- the "wheel" being garden variety ] and ]. I'd like to remove the last few paragraphs of the "History" section, beginning from the words "From 1982-1983..." Does anyone here -- that is, anyone here except Banfield, who has a clear ] in judging the merits and notability of his own work -- object? ] 01:08, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | The section on "posture" isn't working for me. Nobody outside of the The theory looks like it was created by a non-medical person who is trying to reinvent the wheel -- the "wheel" being garden variety ] and ]. I'd like to remove the last few paragraphs of the "History" section, beginning from the words "From 1982-1983..." Does anyone here -- that is, anyone here except Banfield, who has a clear ] in judging the merits and notability of his own work -- object? ] 01:08, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :No objection here. Nothing I can find in real medical literature sugests it merits such ], and I agree about the COI of his expounding anything to do with his own theory in this article. I've posted a note to that effect at ]; if necessary, it can go to ]. ] (]) 02:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | :No objection here. Nothing I can find in real medical literature sugests it merits such ], and I agree about the COI of his expounding anything to do with his own theory in this article. I've posted a note to that effect at ]; if necessary, it can go to ]. ] (]) 02:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
| I agree with occupying undue space and will be happy to abbreviate my theory to one paragraph of plain text if required. I was attempting to highlight the distinguishing symptoms and the multiple factors relating to chest compression. | |||
| However please consider the following; When I first looked at the Da Costa’s syndrome page I found that it was started on 15th May 06, and after 18 months there were only 11 contributions from 5 authors who provided only four lines of text, 8 links and no references, with a wikipedia note requesting help to expand the article. | |||
| Since I made my first entry only 14 days ago, 75 lines of text in six subdivisions have been added with contributions from 50 additional edits, 18 by myself, and 32 by 5 additional authors, and I have outlined the history of the subject with 6 impeccable references, and other editors have contributed an additional 7 references, and there are now 20 additional links from several authors. | |||
| Please also consider that Da Costa’s syndrome is a distinct entity in so far as “it is because these symptoms and signs are largely, and sometimes wholly, the exaggerated physiological responses to exercise . . . that I term the whole ‘the effort syndrome’ “ (T.Lewis 1919) since referred to as a synonym for the ailment. | |||
| With regard to ] the triggers for symptoms appear to be different and there is no mention of chest pains, particularly, and, most commonly in the left inframammary area. That pain is a defining essential in Da Costa Syndrome history, and dysautonomia doesn’t account for it’s location, or why most ot the pains are asymmetric. However I have suggested how persistent postural compression of the chest produces all of the symptoms of Da Costa’s syndrome, including chronic orthostatic hypotension, and intolerance, in relation to faintness and fatigue. | |||
| In regard to the ] syndrome the set of symptoms is similar but different, and the cause is excess oxygen consumption and “Most cases are caused by anxiety or stress”, whereas in Da Costa’s syndrome the cause is low oxygen consumption, ], during exhausting work such as running. | |||
| As you may appreciate it has been quite difficult to make these distinctions when so many similar symptoms and syndromes overlap. | |||
| I respect the observations of Da Costa, and the principles of wikipedia, and appreciate your need for authoritative references, which is why I have used them in constructing and evaluating my ideas, and provided them for consideration. posturewriter | |||
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The section on "posture" isn't working for me. Nobody outside of the The theory looks like it was created by a non-medical person who is trying to reinvent the wheel -- the "wheel" being garden variety orthostatic intolerance and hyperventilation syndrome. I'd like to remove the last few paragraphs of the "History" section, beginning from the words "From 1982-1983..." Does anyone here -- that is, anyone here except Banfield, who has a clear conflict of interest in judging the merits and notability of his own work -- object? WhatamIdoing 01:08, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- No objection here. Nothing I can find in real medical literature sugests it merits such undue space, and I agree about the COI of his expounding anything to do with his own theory in this article. I've posted a note to that effect at User talk:Posturewriter; if necessary, it can go to WP:COI/N. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 02:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree with occupying undue space and will be happy to abbreviate my theory to one paragraph of plain text if required. I was attempting to highlight the distinguishing symptoms and the multiple factors relating to chest compression.
However please consider the following; When I first looked at the Da Costa’s syndrome page I found that it was started on 15th May 06, and after 18 months there were only 11 contributions from 5 authors who provided only four lines of text, 8 links and no references, with a wikipedia note requesting help to expand the article. Since I made my first entry only 14 days ago, 75 lines of text in six subdivisions have been added with contributions from 50 additional edits, 18 by myself, and 32 by 5 additional authors, and I have outlined the history of the subject with 6 impeccable references, and other editors have contributed an additional 7 references, and there are now 20 additional links from several authors. Please also consider that Da Costa’s syndrome is a distinct entity in so far as “it is because these symptoms and signs are largely, and sometimes wholly, the exaggerated physiological responses to exercise . . . that I term the whole ‘the effort syndrome’ “ (T.Lewis 1919) since referred to as a synonym for the ailment. With regard to orthostatic intolerance the triggers for symptoms appear to be different and there is no mention of chest pains, particularly, and, most commonly in the left inframammary area. That pain is a defining essential in Da Costa Syndrome history, and dysautonomia doesn’t account for it’s location, or why most ot the pains are asymmetric. However I have suggested how persistent postural compression of the chest produces all of the symptoms of Da Costa’s syndrome, including chronic orthostatic hypotension, and intolerance, in relation to faintness and fatigue.
In regard to the hyperventilation syndrome the set of symptoms is similar but different, and the cause is excess oxygen consumption and “Most cases are caused by anxiety or stress”, whereas in Da Costa’s syndrome the cause is low oxygen consumption, hypoventilation, during exhausting work such as running. As you may appreciate it has been quite difficult to make these distinctions when so many similar symptoms and syndromes overlap. I respect the observations of Da Costa, and the principles of wikipedia, and appreciate your need for authoritative references, which is why I have used them in constructing and evaluating my ideas, and provided them for consideration. posturewriter
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