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:Mountain Jews in Azerbaijan refer to themselves as ''Juhuro'', how can it be considered offensive? Plus, if a word means something in Persian, its meaning doesn't automatically project onto other languages. The Russian word ''Żyd'' / ''Zhid'' is of Polish origin and is considered highly offensive to Jews, whereas in Poland that same word is an official way of referring to Jewish people and carries no negative connotation whatsoever. ] (]) 03:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC) :Mountain Jews in Azerbaijan refer to themselves as ''Juhuro'', how can it be considered offensive? Plus, if a word means something in Persian, its meaning doesn't automatically project onto other languages. The Russian word ''Żyd'' / ''Zhid'' is of Polish origin and is considered highly offensive to Jews, whereas in Poland that same word is an official way of referring to Jewish people and carries no negative connotation whatsoever. ] (]) 03:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:::: Yes a word in Chinese can mean something else than in Zulu. But we are talking about the usage of that word in Iran (I did not say Persian language only, but also Azeri language) and the republic of Azerbaijan which has been part of Iran. The fact is that Iranians are more respectful towards their religious minorities than the Panturkists from republic of Azerbaijan. The evidences are the conflicts with Armenians (Christians), Lezgins (Sunnis), and Avars (Sunnis). The fact that the Panturkists have love relationships with Turkey and Israel is purely strategical and does not mean that they love the religious minorities in their own countries. --] (]) 12:14, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

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Since when Cuhud is a derogatory term? Cite your sources, please. Grandmaster (talk) 11:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

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I am not saying that we should not tell the truth. No in fact it is very good to honestly say how the Jews are called in the republic of Azerbaijan, but the word Cuhud (also Johud, Juhud) etc... is a dereagatory word. In Iran the word Yahudi and Kalimi is used. Kalimi (those of words) is a very respected designation and refers to moses. Also you will find these designations was used in what is today called rep. Azerbaijan in the Iranian era before the Russian conquest. The fact that Cuhud is used says much about the disrespecting views of Musavat and panturkists on their minorities. Every minority gets discriminated by these Panturks; Kurds, Talysh, Lezgin, Armenian, Jews. very sad--Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:39, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not a place for unsourced POV claims. Cite your sources please and refrain from offensive comments about other nations. Thanks. Grandmaster (talk) 12:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
very illuminative especially your phrase about "other". You know better than me that I always can cite and refer to sources. So I will come back. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Please do and cite a source that Cuhud is a derogatory term in Azerbaijan. Grandmaster (talk) 12:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok. I will come back soon --Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Mountain Jews in Azerbaijan refer to themselves as Juhuro, how can it be considered offensive? Plus, if a word means something in Persian, its meaning doesn't automatically project onto other languages. The Russian word Żyd / Zhid is of Polish origin and is considered highly offensive to Jews, whereas in Poland that same word is an official way of referring to Jewish people and carries no negative connotation whatsoever. Parishan (talk) 03:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes a word in Chinese can mean something else than in Zulu. But we are talking about the usage of that word in Iran (I did not say Persian language only, but also Azeri language) and the republic of Azerbaijan which has been part of Iran. The fact is that Iranians are more respectful towards their religious minorities than the Panturkists from republic of Azerbaijan. The evidences are the conflicts with Armenians (Christians), Lezgins (Sunnis), and Avars (Sunnis). The fact that the Panturkists have love relationships with Turkey and Israel is purely strategical and does not mean that they love the religious minorities in their own countries. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:14, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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