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== zhuda @ the s.h.e article == | |||
Yeah, I don't think there's an English term for it. Because a "hit song" is really only determined by how it performs on the charts, and not all hit songs are track 1 (e.g. S.H.E's second album). A ''similar'' term would be a CD's single, but singles are usually individually sold, either in hard copy or digital. We can't really say "digital single" either because the technology wouldn't have been popular enough back when S.H.E started out in 2001. So yeah. - ] 15:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:But with "main song", that's usually a term used to contrast the word "filler song" in an album. An album has many main songs, but it would be really lame to say "their track ones." - ] 04:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Tibet== | |||
And who are you? ] <sup>]]</sup> 06:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
I have added the neutrality tag. I guess you see the question arising on the actual geographical boundary and framework of historical Tibet -it is subject to debate - I see where you are coming from. Its the old China-Tibet argument again - its difficult - particularly writing an article carefully. I would hope you see I have put tons of work into articles on Tibet.] <sup>]]</sup> 06:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
If you are from ] then I can see your view totally. But try not to let politics affect the article. ] <sup>]]</sup> 06:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
I've removed it as on studying it I too question the accuracy of it. -it isn't all that useful anywat - it was presentation I was thinking about] <sup>]]</sup> 06:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Yes I agree that map was a bit too definitive when even historical boundaries were not all that clear a but you shouldn't object to the flag or seal. It is the flag used in historical Tibet by the Tibetans - I'd hoped it would improve the understanding of the article not as a ruse to promote Tibetan nationalism. The reason I rmeove dit was beacuse of the map and I had doubts over the accuracy of the info and its legitimacy. For instance in an article on "historical" Tibet why did it have info on 2005 population and economy when the article is about pre 1950? This was a contradiction but thanks for bringing it to my attention. Peace. ] <sup>]]</sup> 06:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
Greetings, I have been having the beginnings of a revert battle with ], at the disputed ], I was wondering if you'd be kind enough to look in and give an opinion? Thanks. ] | |||
== ] == | |||
Do you speak Shanghainese and, if so, are you available to come up with the pronunciations of words from time to time? ] 16:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for this valuable info. I think the ad hoc would be best (can the Hanyu pinyin tone marks be used to indicate tones)? ] 06:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
{{GAreview|Hold|Forbidden City|three}}<strong>]</strong>] 06:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
{{GAreview|Pass|Forbidden City}}-- <strong>]</strong>] 20:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
== GA == | |||
Hey PalaceGuard, | |||
I just wanted to congratulate you on your recent GA status article. You are doing a great job. Keep up the hard work. -- <strong>]</strong>] 06:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
== 重装 == | |||
I think you might be right about "reinstall." It was hard to figure it out from the original characters via Wiktionary definitions. ] 08:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Food item == | |||
Hi, I need the Chinese name for the food item that is similar to ]--white balls that are smooth and a little smaller than golf balls, made from glutinous rice flour and filled with sweet bean paste (mung bean or azuki bean). These are available frozen in Chinese supermarkets, in clear plastic trays almost the way eggs are sold. They're boiled in water and are chewy in texture. In Vietnam this is ] (see the photos) and in Japan there is ] like this, but I want to figure out tha original Chinese name for this food. ] 08:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Oh, looks like they're filled ] (yuanxiao). ] 08:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Wow, great info. Can you add all that to the article? ] 16:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
== thanks! == | |||
Thanks for your response on ]! I appreciate your help... if you're interested, we could use all the helping hands we can get at ]. Oh.. read your user page... like you, I am totally addicted to ]. Later! ] 13:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
::*Thanks!!! <small>umm one way you could show moral support is by adding your name to the ]. Just a thought...</small> | |||
::*By the way.. some day.. months from now... November-ish or even December-ish.. I wanna put some major effort into ]... | |||
::*Later! ] 14:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Name == | |||
Did you get your user name from one of the characters in ]'s movie ]? Just wondering. (] 10:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)) | |||
== Sydney Law School == | |||
See the thread with same title on my talk page. ] (]) 13:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Soybeans in the pod== | |||
In the U.S. we know this as ]. I didn't know that Koreans or Chinese ate soybeans this way, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised as there are so many culinary overlaps between those three cultures. This must be one of the very few exceptions to the use of soybeans in highly fermented form. ] 01:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
As I'd suspected, the ] article, under "Uses," only mentions the Japanese use of edamame, and not the Chinese and Korean. If you know about those, you should add info about it there. Edamame might merit its own article, which would talk about all three varieties. It is possible that the Chinese and Korean versions originally come from the Japanese. ] 01:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Interesting! What is 酒糟, exactly? ] 02:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Looks like it's "sediment" or "dregs." ] 02:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Edamame == | |||
Yummy. I'm quite surprised that there isn't a proper article on this food item already! ] (]) 23:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Mao== | |||
Hey, just to let you know I did revert you on the Mao Zedong page - as something like what you added is relatively controversial - and I think it's controversial enough that you should probably have a source to go with it. Assuming you have the source I'm perfectly fine with that being in the article, but I think until then - "propaganda" is a pretty strong word.--<small>]]</span></span></small> 01:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Oh nononono - I'm aware that he acted in that position - the reason I believe a source would be best is the high traffic the article gets and the potential for the factoid to be lost.--<small>]]</span></span></small> 02:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Nicely done.--<small>]]</span></span></small> 02:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Constitution of Australia== | |||
Oh Hello there PalaceGuard | |||
Firstly, I apologize for not having responded. It is my first edit of the Misplaced Pages and i was not familiar with this talk facility. | |||
I didn't realize what was happening. I made the change and when it went back I thought it was an automatic change due to my not having logged on properly or something. | |||
At any rate, I am interested in understanding why my changes were reverted. Why does WIkipedia state there is no Preamble to the constitution? There clearly and legally is. | |||
For example: THE LEGAL INFORMATION ACCESS CENTRE states there is a preamble. | |||
The Australian Government's Senate web site at also includes the preamble. In fact, any record of the Australian Constitution also includes Clauses 1 to 8 which constitutes the Preamble. So why does the Misplaced Pages page state incorrectly thast there is no preamble? | |||
I am truly interested in an intelligent discussion about this point. | |||
My email is so should I expect to hear from you or shall I return here to check? | |||
Kind regards | |||
Truth First | |||
: There is a (big) difference between a preamble of the ''Act'' and a preamble of the Constitution. The links you gave us refer to the preamble of the ''Act''. The Constitution itself does not contain a preamble. (Try and keep discussion in one place please.) ] (]) 11:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: I have emailed Truth First about the distintcion between the Preamble and the Covering clauses on the one hand, and the distinction between the Preamble to the ''Act'' versus the Preamble to the ''Constitution'' on the other hand. Let's continue our discussion at ]. --] (]) 11:25, 4 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Forbidden City == | |||
Never got around to congratulating you for this. Good work. --] 17:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Chinglish picture == | |||
Actually, I rather thought that the whole list of regulations was a veritable goldmine of Chinglish. Perhaps instead, other parts of the article could refer to it. ] 00:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Also, while I realize that WP is not censored, I don't think it would enhance the article's encyclopaedic nature to have an image with the word "shit" staring the reader in the face. There is also the context (a list of regulations in a public place) that would be lost if I cropped the picture. As it is, it clearly demonstrates that local governments in China are not immune to Chinglish. ] 00:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Re:Forbidden City map == | |||
Very impressive! For fonts, I'd recommend something common in case people don't have the font when they download the SVG file. I think a sans serif font (like Arial or Verdana) or something would look good, because Misplaced Pages's default font is a sans serif font - so it doesn't stand out like a sore thumb. Font size is something to consider - depends on whether you want it as a thumbnail in the Forbidden City article, or rather large. The colour... I'm not sure, because you've got light and dark areas. Maybe you'll need to draw semi-transparent boxes behind the labels to make it readable. And when you're done, also consider uploading the SVG file too - you can embed those in pages like any other image type. ] (]) 07:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== CE or AD == | |||
The discussion on whether all China related articles should switch over to BCE/CE formatting is winding down. You haven't commented recently, so I wanted to invite you back to see what you think. A large majority of people who opposed it now what to make the switch. John Smith's seems to be the only person fighting tooth and nail to keep the BC/AD system. He has left some negative comments on the manual of style page. --] 10:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I merely highlighted PHG's attempt at deception. He frequently misquotes or misinterprets wikipedia rules and guidelines to suit himself. Ghost, please try to gain consensus through discussion rather than forcing through a decision through super-majority, which is not consensus. ] 11:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Forbidden City & Palace Museum== | |||
Hi, PalaceGuard008! I know that you have contributed a lot to the Forbidden City article and is trying to improve the quality of it, but I strongly think that the Palace Museum article and the Forbidden City article should be re-merged. Much of the contents in the Palace Museum article is nothing new or more elaborate than the informations that are already presented in the Forbidden City article (the infos are basically the same), and by merging them back together again, I feel a more comprenhensive article could be shown. Also, since the palace (Forbidden City) itself is such an essential part of the museum, I think it is only fitting that they combine into one article. Plus, many of the international articles linked to the Forbidden City talk about both the Forbidden City and Palace Musem within the same article, as I think perhaps it is easier to organize them.--] 02:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Korean and Japan? Japan and Korea? == | |||
It seems as if you like alphabetical order on your own user page, however you object to it, on the Tofu page. | |||
Is there a particular reason for that? I'm assuming that it is not something as petty as you be anti-Japanese, so please inform me as to your reason. | |||
thanks.] 04:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
thanks for the response. | |||
lets leave it as it is and not waste our time any further. | |||
I'm sure someone else will change it at sometime, and someone else will revert it...and it will go on forever, but at least we don't have to waste our time on it anymore.] 05:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Rice tea == | |||
Ha, I don't know why I left that message for myself! Thanks for noticing. Strange that white rice is used for this. ] 10:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
I think it would be good to make an article about 炒米茶. ] 10:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Tiananmen Square calculation == | |||
I did it by looking on Google Maps: | |||
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=39.902066,116.391574&spn=0.01335,0.013583&z=16&om=1 | |||
On the Map, there is an area calculator that came to 55.25 acres: Here is the area I included: | |||
] | |||
Then using the Google calculator: | |||
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=55.25+acres+in+square+meters&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 | |||
55.25 acres = 223 588.817 square meters | |||
This is much less than the official government claims as the size of Tiananmen Square, which appears to put its claim as the largest urban square in the world in dispute. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== RE:Fort Street High School == | |||
please explain - the unproved claim that Fort Street High SChool is the oldest government school in Australia. I cannot understand why this happened, as I specifically changed the text so that it did not make that claim! I'm not going to change it if I'll only be reverted, so I would like to resolv ethis disagreement before I take any action. Apologies in advance----JamesSugrono<sup>]|]</sup> 20:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
: See for example . The system of public education began with what became Fort Street High School. ] (]) 00:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: Apologies - I hadn't read through the DET's page thoroughly enough! This should teach me to read through sources properly in future.----JamesSugrono<sup>]|]</sup> 11:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Re: Chenghuang Miao == | |||
Please see my reply on my talk page. Thanks, —<span style="font-family: Segoe UI, Trebuchet MS, Arial;">''']''' (] • ])</span> 23:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ] ] 01:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== A request == | |||
Hello PalaceGuard008, you've done such a great job adding original language refs to the Forbidden City article, I was wondering if you can help with a new article on more recent Beijing architecture. I just started it today and will add a few more paragraphs shortly to prepare it for DYK, with intended coincidence for it to be on the main page on its anniversary of 1 October. If you notice the zh: interwiki, it lists some projects after the 1959 Ten, and I was trying to steer the article away from those and focus on the original. What I'm going to add is some architectural information about the buildings and some more information about the works of art commissioned for the buildings. I have been able to find some excellent references in English, but basically, what I was asking is if you can help expand this article with any Mandarin pages you may be able to find. My ability to read Chinese is still very limited but I do study, have some resources, and have taken a class so I know a few things, but if you can find any online references I would be happy to read them and see this article expanded. Regards, ]] 00:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for taking a look. Anything that you add, I'm sure will be splendid. I am thinking of starting sections for the second and third paragraphs, with the titles, "art commissions", and "architecture" respectively. And I have some more information to continue along the lines of the third paragraph, maybe with additional subsections of "modernism", "socialist realism", and "historicism" for the architecture section. The article could very well continue with descriptions of the buildings, and make a very full article—but I really want to find more information on the initial planning, and the political situation. Very important in this is finding some sources in Chinese, which is difficult for me since I'm still learning. So any help from you would be fantastic! ]] 01:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
Thanks! Comments left on talk page. Regards, ]] 04:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== I object to the redirect == | |||
The word "caisson" is meaningless. Please do not do that. I do not care that you ripped off my work (which you did - a copy and paste is an effective deletion. Leave my article to exist because I need it. I'll forgive you for the rip off. --] 19:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
: I am going to report this to ANI if you do not stop. You have done no discussion. You simple robbed material from one article to put in yours. I object and will try to get help on this matter to stop you. --] 20:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I have brought it up on ANI as you refuse to discuss it but acted arbitrarily. --] 20:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
There is no such a thing as "my article", Matisse (See ]). Having said that, a redirect without discussion is not unacceptable. If PalaceGuard008 wants to merge and redirect, he needs to place {{tl|mergeto}} and {{tl|mergefrom}} tags in these articles and engage in a discussion. Recurring attempts to redirect and merge without discussion is considered ]. See ]. ] <small>]</small> 20:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Thank you. That is what I wanted to hear. He has already copy/pasted the ] article into his. He pretty much did the same thing with the ] article. --] 20:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
Can you help expand ]? ] 20:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Request a merge per policy - it is not between you and me == | |||
It is not to be argued out on ANI. Just put the merge templates on as stated above. --] 21:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
; When you respond without a title on my talk page I do not always find it because I get a lot of postings - | |||
Please use new banner when you post on my page. Sometimes I have two or three messages at once so I do not always find messages that have been stuck in out of sequence. Please follow the rules. I can't even easily find your messages now as I have to hunt through all the talk page entries. --] 21:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
; Apologize for repeated postings | |||
Misplaced Pages was screwed up and that was accidental. I didn't realize it was posting as I kept getting error message. | |||
Please post under a new section on my talk page. Otherwise, the chances are I will not see it. When I get the message flash, I often don't realize that there is more than one message. So please use a new section on my talk page. That is not an unusual request. In fact, talk page etiquette suggest doing that. --] 21:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Re:Advice on correct template to use == | |||
What I'd do: | |||
# Write on talk page of both articles describing the situation; make sure that other editors agree that they are practically the same. | |||
# Just redirect ] to ] by overwriting the old text by a #REDIRECT. | |||
] (]) 19:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
: In this case, see ]. There's no way around it apart from hashing out some kind of a concensus. Is it just one editor? Are other editors satisfied as to its equivalence? ] (]) 23:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: I've read over the talk pages, and probably the best way forward is to get a ] or approach other editors directly who might have some knowledge or interest in the topic. It doesn't look like either of you will budge, so I think getting some outside opinions will bring some fresh perspective into the debate. (I don't have the time to review the evidence - I'm married to My Thesis.) ] (]) 03:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Received third opinion on Merge of zaojing and Caisson (Asia architecture) == | |||
I asked for an honest opinion from an editor who writes many articles, including several Feature Articles, on Chinese history and Chinese architecture. His reply: | |||
<blockquote>If you want my honest opinion, I think it is Caisson that needs to be merged into an article on zaojing (preferably as a separate explanatory section), not the other way around. I say this in consideration that it only focuses on the Forbidden City, while the zaojing covers a much wider time frame. That's just me, though.--<strong>]</strong><sup>]</sup> 06:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)</blockquote> | |||
Regards, --] 13:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Actually== | |||
After reading the Caisson article (which I really didn't before, I only went on Mattise's word that it focuses solely on the Forbidden City) it is plain and obvious as day to see they are the same exact thing, only using either English terminology or the exact Chinese terminology. I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Why don't you guys draw straws or play rock paper scissors or something, because there are articles on East Asian topics that have English originated titles or exact renditions of East Asian terms.--<strong>]</strong><sup>]</sup> 17:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Merge caisson (Asian architecture) into coffer == | |||
My view is that until you straighten out the terminology in Caisson (Asian architecture) any suggested merge with ''zaojing'' should be put on hold. The term "caisson" is not commonly used in architecture in the way you use it. There are no architectural articles on Misplaced Pages that use the word as an architectural word. The Oxford English Dictionary is not an architectural glossary. Glossaries on architecture do not list the term. If you want to use dictionaries, then ''The Random House Dictionary of the English Language, Unabridged Edition'' lists five definitions. As number 6 (and least preferred): '''Also, cassoon , Arch, coffer (def. 4)'''. I have suggested that the Caisson (Asian architecture) be merged with ] which is the correct architectural term in English. Other than the least preferred definition in a general dictionary, I cannot find a reliable architectural source supporting your use of the term. (And I do not count superficial online Chinese travel sources if not supported by more reliable sources. Cheers. --] 13:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
;Architecture is a profession with specific terminology | |||
A general dictionary is not a technical dictionary. If I look up common technical terms in my profession in OED or any other general dictionary, it will not give a correct definition. In fact, this is the source of much strife in my field on Misplaced Pages, as lay persons stick material into the articles, based on common usage, and disregard the professional definitions. This way misinformation is perpetuated. Fortunately, there was a recent Arbcom decision that in professional fields where scholarly sources exist, correct sourcing ] and ] must be followed, as it is dangerous for Misplaced Pages to put forth inaccurate information. Granted, architecture is not, for the most part, a life threatening issue, but the general standards and guidelines should still be followed in all articles. Cheers. --] 14:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
;Multiple sources | |||
Look up "multiple" in your dictionary. Not good enough to have one nontechnical source. The English did rule the world once upon a time, but I believe that is no longer the case and other cultures get to have their own identity today, even on Misplaced Pages. Would you use a general Chinese dictionary as the main source for an article on an English topic? Cheers. --] 14:14, 17 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Sure == | |||
That's actually a great idea, I'll actually do that, and revert the History section to just before my additions, to maintain the coherence of the article, until the new History section is complete.]§]<sub>]</sub> 08:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Sanbeiji== | |||
Thanks--so you're sure the wine that's always used for sanbeiji is mijiu and not any kind of red-colored huangjiu like Shaoxing wine? If mijiu, is it the drinking kind or the cooking kind (which has salt in it)? ] 23:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
I made some changes to reflect your knowledge. ] 23:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Wiki Flag Policy == | |||
Hi PalaceGuard! I still need to make an official greeting lol. I can also tell why you have such a name haha. I've read your forbidden palace, its very good and im glad it did reach the GA status. I think Chinese/Asian culture deserves a fairer cut into the earths spere of influence anyway. All the same, I just hope our argument about flags will end peacefully, and I'm sorry if I have offended you in anyway. But I must say here, my argument will go down soon anyway. It seems no one around other than me seem to support flags. Once ben and ench or a few people dig into the argument on your side, I'll prolly end it. oh well, I tried. ] 23:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
==You can have the zaojing redirect - just remove the copied text & references that you put in the Caisson article as they are incorrect anyway == | |||
I just do not want the material and text copied from the article, ] as it is part of another article. You cannot copy text and references from another article. But you can use the #REDIRECT. Just remove the copied text and references as they are incorrectly used in the Caisson article. Cheers, --] 14:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No. Misplaced Pages has a policy that you cannot copy information from one article to another without CONSENSUS. That is the point of the MERGE. Cheers, --] 14:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::If you look under ], ] etc. you will see that you cannot cite sources that you have not consulted directly. That means you must access the source before you reference it. Cheers, ] 14:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::It may be under ]. You cannot just take a list of references and pretend that you consulted them personally. Cheers, --] 14:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
;More on OR in ] | |||
Accusing me of OR does not excuse you. You are pretending if you cite sources in an article and you have not consulted them. Besides ], ] (since you have not consulted the sources) and ] are applicable. | |||
Also you might be interested that ] has been stalking me and making personal attacks. Cyborg Ninja has since been warned for stalking and personal attacks regarding me, including these posting on the talk page of ]: | |||
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Referring to another post on my talk page: As I have explained to you before, when I said "my sources" I mean sources I own and can consult. The sources that I own and can therefore verify by looking are quoted incorrectly in your article. You have used the copied sources incorrectly when you copied from one article to another. In one instance I could not find the source cited in the book so I must have been mistaken. In another instance, the lady whoever's tomb, neither a caisson nor a zaojing is mentioned. These books are very difficult for me to read and understand, and I do at times make mistakes. Cheers, --] 15:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
;Just to repeat from my talk page since this discussion is going on there | |||
(copied from my talk page) | |||
To repeat from my posting on your talk page, I don't care about the #REDIRECT on ]. I care that you copied text and the references from the article and put it in yours. If you look under ], ], ] etc. you will see that you cannot cite sources that you have not consulted directly. That means you must access the source before you reference it. As someone else suggested, it can also be consider ], ] if you include information that you have not researched yourself. | |||
Referring to another post on my talk page: As I have explained to you before, when I said "my sources" I mean sources I own and can consult. The sources that I own and can therefore verify by looking are quoted incorrectly in your article. You have used the copied sources incorrectly when you copied from one article to another. In one instance I could not find the source cited in the book so I must have been mistaken. In another instance, the lady whoever's tomb, neither a caisson nor a zaojing is mentioned. These books are very difficult for me to read and understand, and I do at times make mistakes. Cheers. --] 18:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
;I asked at the Village Pump (policy) and the answer is that you cannot use the sources copied from another Misplaced Pages article - providing diff of answer | |||
* Here is the diff with the answer. Please follow policy and remove the sources. Cheers. --] 22:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
*Here is another diff | |||
And here is the comment copied from the Technical Pump (policy): | |||
:See more specifically the guideline ]. ] 20:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC) Cheers. --] 22:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
Hello! back in August at , amongst the material you added were the words "subsequent emperors lived instead at the smaller Hall of Mental Cultivation to the west" and a citation to it named <nowiki><ref name="CCTV2"/></nowiki>. Since the reference name doesn't exist earlier in the article, it has caused "Cite error 8; No text given" to appear in the references. I am guessing that "CCTV2" refers to a China Central TV documentary (or website), but do you remember to what it was you were intending to reference? Thanks, and regards, — ] <sup>]</sup> 00:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for your quick reply! I did wonder if that was where it had come from, but I was unable to find it with a quick look, and in any case the best person to produce the reference was yourself. Have a good day! :) — ] <sup>]</sup> 00:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Clarification == | |||
I may have looked at it a bit unfavourably at the time. But i took your statement that: ''This article had been stable for a long time before Loopla came along and disturbed its arrangement.'' as the offending comment, at the time i viewed it as though you were calling the editor in question disruptive. It was probably incorrect, but i think that commenting on other editors should be discouraged at all times. I am entitled to use the word ''fuck'' as i please, in its context, it violated no policy of wikipedia, although some may consider it inappropriate, i dont. Happy editing. ] ] 12:41, 29 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
: It may have been stable for a long period of time, but that is the point of wikipedia ''anyone can edit'', although i agree with Loopla's revision, and disagree with yours I am willing to just let this all go, and move on with my life, because what happens on one small school article concerns me precious little. Feel free to join ] if you feel strongly about schools. ] ] 02:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: You might be interested in becoming part of the ] team, where you can actively assess school articles. You start off as a beginner assessor, where you have to post all of your assessments to the assessment change log, after about 2 weeks they will promote you to Experienced, and you only have to put an article that got a B-class or higher, or mid-importance and up. Probably worth joining. ] ] 13:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Dispute resolution == | |||
Thanks for asking. Misplaced Pages has a pretty well-defined set of options for content disputes, at ]. In this case, you might start with posting a request at the Architecture WikiProject to see if you can get one or more other editors there to get involved. After that, you have a whole range of choices. If I were you, I'd just ask Mattisse if he'd be willing to do any of the options, and take whatever he wants. If he won't pick one, then you can rule out the mediation cabal, but the others are still available. | |||
And maybe if you try editor assistance, someone there will have a better idea than Blueboar and me for what to do next, though I'm skeptical (but would be delighted to be wrong). -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 01:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Given a comment that Mattisse has made on his talk page about not trusting mediation, I doubt he will agree. However, my advice is that you do make the offer, as it will show your good faith in attempting to resolve things, and that could be important at later stages of dispute resolution should they get there. I note that Mattisse has not been formally notified (on his talk page) of the mediation that Cyborg Ninja has already requested. You might take notifying Mattisse of the request as a first step (also note that the Mediation Cabal will not accept the request if he does not signal his agreement.) | |||
:At this point, I think I will do more damage than good by remaining involved in the article. Mattisse at least offered an appology for his insinuation that we were engaged in sockpuppetry. I am willing to let it go at that. Good luck with your future editing. ] 00:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Mattisse (again) == | |||
He is taking his temporary block very poorly... he keeps digging the hole deaper, and escallating the situation. I strongly suggest that you ''not'' respond to any comments he may make either here or on his talk page. I have notified ANI... let them handle it. ] 02:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
=== and again === | |||
:Re your kind note on my talkpage. I'm afraid that I am not posting on Mattisse's talkpage for much the same reason as you - I don't wish to stir up further ill feeling. I suggest you ask ], an admin who has recently helped Mattisse, if he is willing to broach the subject with her. ] 12:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ToC == | |||
Whilst I hear your concerns, im looking to the future: these articles are going to have more content, and as such, doing it now will save doing it in future. Then you have the other issue of "who really wants to see 5 sections on the different alumni from XY" the answer is only a few people. Thanks. ] ] 01:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Fair comment. Ill re-consider on some occasions. ] ] 01:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Lijiu == | |||
What the heck is "lijiu"? I've never heard of this. It sounds delicious and I've made liqueur out of plums at home before, but never heard that such a thing was commercially produced in China or Taiwan. ] 05:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
We've had some discussion about these Chinese fruit wines , in case you're interested. ] 06:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Meijiu== | |||
Since the meijiu is red, Chinese must prefer that the fruits used be ripe rather than green. Unless it's colored artificially... I have a bottle of yangmei jiu (杨梅酒--labeled as "arbutus juice" though it's made with baijiu!) and the liquid is red in color. ] 06:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
Ah, it looks like 红梅酒 IS made with green ume, and colored with food coloring (I think it might be ], or artificial colors, or both). See http://blog.tianya.cn/blogger/view_blog.asp?BlogName=plum_wine. ] 06:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Huangjiu== | |||
I don't agree that describing that it's produced on the mainland and in Taiwan is politically loaded at all. If you want to rephrase it, that's fine, but I think it's fine "as is." When I purchase huangjiu, I purchase it specifically because it is produced in one of these places or other, so the distinction does matter. ] 08:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
I understand now--thanks for the additional explanation. I hadn't given the term "nations" a second thought. ] 23:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Funny...but pathetic== | |||
Why are some people so focused and determined in their efforts to show everyone else in the world the brevity of their stupidity? Seriously. That is one of the dumbest things to argue "well, since I think it should be Central Kingdom, the term 'Middle Kingdom' should be struck from the article altogether, because up is down, black is white, and my head is where my *** should be." Lol. | |||
Good luck mate. Hopefully this guy will realize the pointlessness of all this before he gets banned for related or unrelated reasons.--<strong>]</strong><sup>]</sup> 22:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Misplaced Pages Signpost: In the news == | |||
Hey, as you may remember, I'll be in Hong Kong for 7 days from this Thursday - and I would like to find someone to act as replacement editor for the "In the news" section in the ]. Do you want to fill in for one issue (November 19)? It's not hard - just Google news search for "Misplaced Pages" and summarise the more promising ones. You can just use the current edition's section as a template. How does that sound? :) ] (]) 15:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Sockpuppetry == | |||
FYI - I've started a sockpuppetry case against {{User|Peter zhou}} ], if you'd care to add any input. Thanks <sub><span style="border:1px solid #330088;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC) |
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PalaceGard008, your head is filled with SHIT.
FUCK YOU, asshole, I will let my dog fuck your mom's asshole in and out.