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"Get the permission of the copyright holder, upload the images to Misplaced Pages, describe the image and the licence, wait out the page protection and/or create a user account and even you can add them to the article if you so wish. ---- WebHamster 20:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)"

You are quite right and i have screenshot your comment of your expert knowledge of copyright law making a s.97 defence pretty difficult. For example the solicitors for Simon Cowell advise me that a series of UK cases make it abundently clear that the face of a celebrity is protected by the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and the use of an image depicting that face in a derogatory manner is not only a defamation but a copyright infringement. Attempts to remove or delete those images are pretty fruitless thanks to a tool often used by the copyright tribunal. Thank you for being so helpful.

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Cheers

You defended me well, thank you. Dyslexicbudgie 01:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Jack Savoretti?

What can we do to the page to make it accseptable? Bobo6balde66 11:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

the page seems fine but it will get better Bobo6balde66 18:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

In regards to your comment on my page

Well, it's not your userpage. ;) I'll do whatever I want to with it, and no one who actually chooses to call himself WebHamster can change my mind. I'll keep the servo.hatred prototype article wherever I feel is convenient, not wherever you tell me to. (Aquaspace 04:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC))-Aquaspace

OK

• im still getting use to wikipedia but tell me why isnt he important enough,im still not sure how to sign your name if i didnt do it i meant toPoint93 16:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• He played in the gaelic football league called the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship and the Ulster Senior Football Championship,so i think that makes him eligiblePoint93 17:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• The Aussie rules team but that is composed of gaelic players but its a different sport,he was on the runner up team in th ulster finalPoint93 17:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• the first page was about a different person and the other person probably only deleted it becauser of that,actually the only thing higher in gaelic football is the allstar team and it is only 15 players a year,how do i do the hangon tag???Point93 17:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• how do i sort it out??Point93 17:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• I will put the text back onto wikipedia but edit it so it is my own version and if you still have a problem tell me what it is,if you don't know what I'm talking about its Magheracloone.Point93 18:07, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

• So i cant even use half the textPoint93 18:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• I made my own version so now its not copyvio,really i should be thanking you for helping me make a good pagePoint93 20:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• i cant give you a barnstar how can i??Point93 20:31, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• Thank you,i'll know for the future,are you an admin?Point93 21:01, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• If the page hasn't been edited in several days will it get deleted?Point93 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 21:34, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• Do you have a bebo??Point93 21:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Moon Secure AV

Hi there, i feel Moon secure Av should have a presence as Clam and commercial antiviruses do, also there are 2 articles linking to it, what can i do to make it acceptable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinger1986 (talk • contribs) 13:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I authored and edited the Henry L. Stimson Center page. Beyond the encyclopedic tone what else should I have in there as it will not be promotional? Thank you for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huskybear (talk • contribs) 21:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Henry L. Stimson Center

I declined your speedy request on that one and sent it to Afd. Cheers, Carlossuarez46 22:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

George Rhoads

Hello, I saw a sculpture of this man at Discoevery Science Center in Santa Ana, CA, and wanted to know more about him. I found his website, but wanted some more objective information and searched wikipedia. When there was nothing on him I added the article as new wishing that someone could add more.

At his site it says: Besides painting, Rhoads has spent the last 30 years designing rolling ball machines and wind sculptures for public and private places. “They embody almost every basic element of machinery, combined in a bewildering variety of ways. There is a level of genius behind inventing complex mechanisms; that's what George has,” says James Seawright, technological artist and director of the Visual Art program at Princeton University. His sculptures can be found in airports and hospitals throughout USA and also in Japan, Israel, Korea and Mexico according to his website. I don't know if this makes him famous enough. Staffel 04:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm wondering if I owe you an apology...

Part of me is feeling a bit guilty over starting this whole matter - I've set loose an entire pack of rabid door-to-door evangelical missionaries, and whatever damage they do is arguably on my head. I find it ironic how much effort they are wasting preaching in the AfD discussion - can you imagine what could happen if they would put all that energy into actually trying to understand the guidelines and fix the article to meet them. - Pacula 23:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Note that I did mean the above to be mostly tounge-in-cheek - sorry for not making that clearer. :) Seeing our 'friend' respond to your comments by once again trying to sell you one of Sarno's books brought to mind something very much along the lines of a borderline-nut-job street preacher chasing people around trying to shove tracts and pamphlets into their hands..... - Pacula 00:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

One more thing, this time serious - did you ever take a look at our friend's contribution history? I don't see anything there that isn't related to Dr. Sarno. I'm not at all sure if that's unacceptable behaviour, but it certainly lends weight to the idea that this is all about trying to promote him and peddle his work. - Pacula 02:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

re: lists

Not sure if you've ever added the List of classical guitarists article to your watchlist but it would be great if you did. The list... particularly the 'contemporary' players is in need of some work. I began a bit of cleanup on it earlier today. It's protected... I can't actually edit THE list... BUT... I went through the first 12-15 entries to see just exactly what kind of articles were supporting their inclusion on the list and lo and behold I found a half dozen "X is a classical guitarist"... period!... That was all the content they had :D . I tagged them all as Speedy Deletes. They are all slowly being cleaned up. Some admins are too polite though. They delete the article... but instead of deleting the nn entry from the List of classical guitarists... they just remove the brackets. I prodded some of the ones that weren't obvious speedy deletes. There are many more still to be reviewed. I was just hoping... if you weren't too busy... you could take a quick look at it. Another set of eyes chipping into "the cleansing" would be most appreciated. It'd be great if Inxs Girl came back! Thanks and have a nice day! 156.34.225.235 00:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment at Talk:Portable building-- what do we do next?

I am posing this question to you and a few other editors because I know you are an experienced editor and I have seen you in the AfD discussions. This is the first time I have had a RfC (Request for Comment) regarding an edit dispute. I have opposed the inclusion of webpage links an inclusion of what I think is commercial information regarding a manufacturer called "Portakabin, Ltd." in the article Portable building, because there is no citation to any reliable source to support the assertions made or justify its inclusion while its competitors' links and references have been deleted. The editor wishing to include the information has filed a Request for Comment at Talk:Portable building.

The problem we have is that he and I are still the only ones discussing and commenting. Everything is nice and cordial. It is the model example of handling an edit dispute... except that I don't know what else we can do to acquire a consensus opinion. How do we get others to render an opinion? No one is coming to our party and we made some very nice tea and lovely little biscuits. It has been a couple of days already. What do we do? Thanks for any help and guidance.OfficeGirl 03:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Sad, just sad....

Thought you should have a look at this comment here, specifically the one posted by 'stanfr' timestamped '09/13/2007 : 01:46:42'. :/ - Pacula 12:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Lansing Bennett

I am surprised that the AFD is still undecided though it there are still 40 left undecided. Perhaps it is because it is not a clear cut decision.

When the decision is finally made, please do not have any hard feelings. Your ideas are enlightening and will only help me write better articles. Mrs.EasterBunny 22:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Drummers

Hi WebHamster. Regarding my edits, you may be interested in Misplaced Pages:Avoid self references and Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style. As a general point, please don't simply revert formatting or style edits because you don't understand them - consider contacting the editor if something is not clear. Thanks! Deiz talk 13:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Umm.. ?uestlove was moved to the alternative Questlove to maintain the integrity of the section headers. If you want to add a section header which will cover people whose names begin with punctuation marks, go right ahead. On reflection, he should probably be included under his real name with the psudonymn noted. Lines such as "This is a list of X on Misplaced Pages" and "Do not add redlinks to this page" are self references. Those should be pretty obvious if you compare the diffs. No brainfarts here. Deiz talk 14:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Abd al-Bari Atwan and EA

I would welcome your point of view about the issues that you are currently experiencing with the Abd al-Bari Atwan article. I am concerned that we at EA may not have received an entirely fair portrayal from Annalasim because we currently have only one side's viewpoint. Please comment at Editor Assistance or alternatively, contact me on my talk page. Adrian M. H. 15:47, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to reply so thoroughly, WebHamster. It makes pretty much confirms what I had suspected. Adrian M. H. 20:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Free Bible students

This is very important for the readers of Misplaced Pages. There are many Free Bible students in other countries that will find this very importent. Please help me while my english is not so good.- Thanks! --Bibelforscher 20:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

lil help?

um how do u do all that interests, location stuff on your user page? sorry im a bit of a noob —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thejessemancan (talk • contribs) 09:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

The Rebelution

Hello, in response to your deletion tags on the article "The Rebelution," I need to know what needs to be sourced before I can source it. The article will be expanded, but I simply do not see a need for sourcing. The only negatable part of the article is when I claim that 1800 people attended the Indy conference, and I can remove that if it is necessary.

Thanks! TheCoolestDude 01:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• According to that page you gave me, Organizations are usually notable if the scope of activities are national or international in scale and information can be verified by sources that are reliable and independent of the organization. So all I have to do to achieve notability is provide independant sources verifying that the scope of activities is national. It shall be done.

Thanks! TheCoolestDude 01:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• • Is that better until I have the time to really expand the page? TheCoolestDude 01:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
• Thanks for all your help! TheCoolestDude 01:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Del Palmer

I've re-created Del Palmer, which you recently AfD'd. I'm sorry I missed the AfD discussion, but I think the new page satisfies the issues raised there. See the Talk page for explanation. Bondegezou 13:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Declined speedy delete on Bodham FC

Just letting you know I have declined the request to speedy delete this article, as the notability bar (playing in a professional league), is at least ventured at. If you wish, you can take this article to Articles for Deletion. SirFozzie 14:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

deletion

Hi. I recently wrote a page for a drummer named Marc Slutsky. It has been deleted and redirected to his old band Splender. You were involved in the decision for this.

I've read the discussion but do not understand the reasoning. There are SEVERAL other drummers on this site who have pages and they are not as well known as Mr. Slutsky.

For example, on the Splender page, (the one he is REDIRECTED to) there is a link the Gin Blossoms. On their page, a member of their band, also a drummer, has a link to his OWN page. This drummer, Chris McCann, has 2 sentences on his page...

"Chris McCann was the original drummer for the alternative rock band Gin Blossoms when the group was formed in 1987, He was replaced by Dan Henzerling the next year, before the release of the group's first album."

He was replaced! How could this drummer be listed and Mr. Slutsky gets a deletion notice? I had links up to his current activity...He now plays with Alexa Ray Joel (Billy Joel's daughter) who ALSO has a page on Misplaced Pages.

Mr. Slutsky has also toured with Gaven DeGraw.

Please help me understand why he is not worthy of at least 2 sentences on your site.

Thank You.

Allison abkagan@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abkagan (talk • contribs) 23:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

AfDs

Please do not make satyrical comments o the subjects of articles up for AfD. Regardless of the merits of the articles, it does not contribute to objective discussion. DGG (talk) 01:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Likewise, personal attacks such as this are unacceptable per Misplaced Pages policy. See WP:NPA. Reswobslc 22:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

AN/I

I am letting you know that I have commented on our recent exchanges at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:WebHamster. Reswobslc 01:31, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Faith Cokoy Speedy

Okay, thanks for letting me know. -- Tckma 21:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

james purnell

It seems you have deleted the article sean parker-perry (well done) although it seems some wiki vandals are now trying to incorporate this artiocle into the james purnell page. could you revert edits by gayboy_ds and co2junky ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.50.161 (talk) 08:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: James Purnell the user 83.104.50.161 is no other than Sean Parker-Perry who is a PA to Purnell and Longdendale councillor. His edits are not neutral and part of a political whitewash, check out his previous edits! --Gayboy-ds 10:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Mark Kermode

If you had actually checked you would have noticed I fixed a link on the Mark Kermode page rather than vandalizing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.205.233 (talk) 15:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Arditi S.p.A

You didn't left me time to improuve the page, or to put the "hangon", and I don't think it is much less relevant than for example Calcomp, Guide Friday or Floform, only to cite a few. What is your advice? User:Miguelfms

WPGM New Monthly Newsletter

The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

File:WPGM nl.png The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue I - October 2007 Got any suggestions? - Add them here Member news The project currently has 21 members. However, it could increase with the {{Welcome WPGM}} on usertalk pages, as seen with GRB1972 Pages Needing Attention Didsbury - it recently failed a GA review - could it be promoted eventually? Current Debates Should The Filmworks and The Printworks be merged? See here for more. Monthly Challenges May seem like old news now, but Manchester was recently listed as a good article, try and make as much effort as you can with trying to make it featured. Manchester Airport has seen unprecedented vandalism from anonymous editors recently, on 24th September it was protected by MastCell for a period of 1 week. Make sure to visit the page (after that date) regularly so we can stamp out any "bad edits". Try to invite more members to this project. As much as a streamlined team is good, the more editors we have the broader the range we can cover. Created by Rudget Contributions | Single-Page View

Comments on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/People Can Change

I have been sick recently and I think the medications did something to my head. Well, I feel better today, and I realized my comments were very, how shall I say, off-topic. I joke around a lot in real life, but I realize that some of my jokes don't translate online very well. When I'm serious, I'm serious, but when I am joking, take everything with a grain of salt. LCP's comments made me realize that I left the totally wrong impression. I am quite mellow and conservative and don't go running around hooking up with everyone. Anyway, in the end it really doesn't mean anything online anyhow. It was fun joking with you a bit. Joshuajohanson 17:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy tag on Brown Brigade

Hello, and thanks for helping find and tagging A7 articles for speedy deletion. I removed your speedy tag from Brown Brigade because the text claims it was the subject of an article in Rolling Stone, which qualifies as a claim to notability. Please be careful when using criterion A7, as it is sometimes overused. Thanks! --Ginkgo100 01:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:EAR

Hello, I was reading WP:EAR and you said something about "outing" other Wikipedians being frowned on. Do you know of any guidelines/essays that talk about this subject? I want to know more. Thanks in advance. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2007

Please stop marking my articles for speedy deletion on articles that I created myself before I even finish typing a couple of sentences, as you did with {{#if:Theo Obrastoff|. How about giving it - oh I don't know - at least 3 minutes before you decide it should be deleted? Solkaige 02:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Death of Marilyn Monroe

Thank you for your help in preventing this article from become even worse of a joke. But the gossip-column contingent isn't giving up so quickly....

Please don't bother to reply to me, but you might keep your eye on the article. My latest move: to self-revert, so that the crap stays in. (Not that I'd mind in the slightest if somebody were to remove it. Just 3RR and all that; although I really don't see how this should apply to the crap-removal side.) -- Hoary 14:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Oodleplex

While I agree that the subject is silly, this same article topic has been created and subsequently deleted at least three times in the last two years. I would argue that that supports the idea that it is of use. Moreover, it's small, it's cute, and it's harmless. Furthermore, it *is* sourced -- it is from Terry Pratchett's novel "Thief of Time" as was noted in the article body itself. It is not spam, nor is it self-serving, nor is it vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJustice (talk • contribs) 18:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I just noticed (from the automatically-generated comment on my usertalk page) that you deleted it under the guideline of "patent nonsense", which it clearly was not (per the definition on the guideline page itself).

The Hamsters

Last I checked, you didn't create The Hamsters article. It looks unimportant and not worthy of an article as far as I can tell. I've never even heard of them. Removing the speedy deletion tag is considered vandalism. Solkaige 00:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Drop the attitude

What is it with you? You got some personal beef or chip on your shoulder? Every single thing you've said to me has been snotty. Add to that nominating my article for "speedy deletion" before it was even started makes me think somethings wrong.

You have remained civil and polite while insulting me and my articles continuously... and while trying to get the deleted before they're started? How about letting someone else give me pointers? Solkaige 00:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I've now given you pointers, Solkaige, on your talk page. -- Hoary 00:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Three Valley Museum

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Three Valley Museum. Since you tagged this for speedy-deletion, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Dsmdgold 13:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Bigleaguer and Nishidani

It was inappropriate to post that, perhaps, on Beinin's page. As an editor defending the integrity of Beinin's page from several recent attacks, I had great difficulty in following the repeated changes in blocked text from unsigned sources, and indeed asked for intervention. I found it necessary, foreseeing that official action might be taken, to identify the game being played. Whether I have been sucked into something beyond my personal power to understand, I do not know. I am deeply surprised that my attempt to defend the page, and document the intense manipulation of it, and associated talk pages, from confusing elisions, reversions, should be taken as being on a par with the very new editor who has now joined Misplaced Pages. I stand by my record as a serious editor. If I have done something technically improper, please avert me on my page. I am not an expert on Wiki rules. My interest is only in getting good quality texts up, and keeping them that way. Regards Nishidani 21:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

G Marcus Cole

Hi there, I think this scholar is notable. Can you reconsider the prod? Bearian 00:29, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Article : Flimboe

I removed the speedy you placed on this article as I just moved it to the authors userpage instead. Hope you don't mind. A 01:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't waste our time or you will be blocked

How many of these speedy delete pages did you bother to read? Are you 10 years old or just a troll trying to waste our time? Or maybe your speedy of a disambig due to lack of content was an uncharacteristic mistake? (We all make mistakes). Please don't help Misplaced Pages if deleting short pages is your idea of helping. WAS 4.250 19:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC) I agree, the marci bowers page i created was up for speedy deletion 20 mins after i madeit and collecting research together, give us a chance, we cant create great wikis at the click of the fingers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marci Bowers Helper (talk • contribs) 21:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Just make your wiki page when Hamster is asleep. :) He can't stop everyone. School of fish method mate! School of fish! He just lvoes the power cause he has a comptuer and thinks himself a gatekeeper of knowledge. He doesn't even read through half the articles he marks for speedy deletion. People like this give Misplaced Pages a bad name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.179.10 (talk) 08:34, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

LOL

I just had to come tell you I am laughing at your comment on User talk:Manduck2k3. What a ________ this guy is. (I'll let you fill in that blank...you know WP:NPA. Could be a good thing in that blank! - Rjd0060 01:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

"Woops did Rjd0060 say something? I asked you not to post on my talk, you didn't listen... Just have to rerun my IP randomizer and I will talk with YOU later!" . Round 2 coming soon? -Rjd0060 01:16, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

speedy a7

Speedy for lack of notability applies only to real people, not characters in books or films. Please re-read WP:CSD A7. If you doubt notability, often the bestt hing is to propose a merge, or if you think it hopeless, use prod or afd. DGG (talk) 02:16, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Shall we dance?

Sorry about the edit conflicts! lol. I've been working on the article for FisherQueen, and to help out MBH who is quite new and not familiar with things, I was unaware someone else was helping out too. Thanks! Ariel♥Gold 21:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

~*Hums the Blue Danube Waltz music*~ I've replied (♪ 1, 2, 3 ♪♫) on my talk (♫ 1, 2, 3 ♪) page! (step, ♫ 1, 2, 3 ♫). Ariel♥Gold 21:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting him, I wasn't sure what to do, so luckily you stepped in. Oh and I've learned a new word for the day; pique! A nice small word, yet after looking it up, encompasses quite a bit. Phgao 03:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the ref fix up too! Phgao 03:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Contesting Deletion of Kay.K.BayZ

Firstly, awesome picture on top man!

I have spoken with administrator NawlinWiki about this page once. I think his work load increased and he hasn't been able to get back to me, which is understandable. He suggested that 6hr Sundae (mentioned in the article) may be notable and wanted to see how Kay.K tied in to the whole story.

Just some background info: 6hr Sundae is a popular rock band in Turkey and have released video clips, done TV interviews with big stations and played at major concerts (these can all be seen on YouTube and the Bands Official Website). Kay.K is a lead singer, producer, songwriter and drummer of the band.

He asked me to prove that Kay.K was notable. Here is the final post I sent to the admin:

Due to the continually updating nature of the music industry, songs don't stay in the charts for long and websites are updated to reflect the new changes.

The 6hr Sundae (known as 6 Saat overseas) album was released early this year and has already placed and been removed from the charts. Therefore it's extremely difficult to find currently live links. However, we have attached a few from a radio station and some screen dumps to prove the success of the band:

Radio Charts: http://www.radiooscar.net/muzik_haber_detaylari.asp?haber=847 http://www.radiooscar.net/top20.asp?gelen=148 http://www.radiooscar.net/top20.asp?gelen=146

Billboard Magazine: http://www.6hrsundae.com/media/billboard.jpg

Dream TV Website Screen Dump: http://www.6hrsundae.com/media/dreamTv.jpg

Rock Fest 2007: http://www.zeytinlirockfest.com/ (navigate to "Gruplar" then "6 Saat")

Kay.K.BayZ is listed as the producer of the album, a songwriter, lead singer and drummer in the band. I have read through the Misplaced Pages criteria and believe that Kay.K qualifies under each/any of these:

-Has been listed as a major influence or teacher of a composer, songwriter or lyricist that meets the above criteria

-Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a musician or ensemble that qualifies above, a notable theatre, or has been taken up by a musician or ensemble that qualifies above.

-Has been a significant musical influence on a musician or composer that qualifies for the above list.

-Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer or lyricist who meets the above criteria.

I am prepared to remove any part of the article that may sound like advertising/spam to make sure we are providing information about Kay.K and not advertising him.

Regards,

Kudret KayKBayZ 03:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Uncle Don's

I deeply resent having been called a vandal over a page I created and which I believe I the right to blank as the only editor. Had I known that (a) I would have gotten clobbered by an AfD before it was even done, (b) I would have insults leveled at me and (c) something I banged out in less than ten minutes as a low-importance side note in Riverside County history would have caused such histrionics among so many editors, I would never have bothered to write this. --PMDrive1061 05:14, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

• FWIW, I've restored my pages. I am still deeply stung by your comment, but I want no further misunderstandings. I've put in far too many hours on this site to go out like some stupid teen on a real vandalism spree. I've seen the good work you've done on new page patrolling regarding real vandalism. --PMDrive1061 05:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

• I think you are changing two aspects here; insults as you call them would never have been leveled if you did not act in the way you did; and thus they were a consequence of your actions and came after them. Phgao 07:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, Wassup Look Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Left u Idiot !!! 22:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, could u help me out ?

By the way, i dont mean my signature as a personal attack, but u fell for it didn't you lol, you gotta say it's pretty good

Look Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Left u Idiot !!! 23:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

So can you help me out ? Look Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Left u Idiot !!! 23:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

You know, with editing Misplaced Pages ? Look Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Left u Idiot !!! 23:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

So, can u help me out ? Look Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Left u Idiot !!! 23:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, can you help me or not ?, because i think your being a little rude by not answering me Look Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Left u Idiot !!! 23:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages can go straight to fucking hell!!!! how the fuck is the karaoke kings inappropriate!?!?!?!?!?!?! its a fucking low key group currently making a documentary just you're too up your fucking american arse to care just because they aren't MTV-worthy! FUCK YOU ALL YOU WILL BE FUCKING SORRY AND YOU WONDER WHY YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE NOBHEADS BOMBING YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY CUZ YOU'RE FUCKING IGNORANT CUNTS!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jozzage (talk • contribs) 00:02, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Scandinavian Bunkering

Are you sure it's a speedy? It appears relativley notable to me. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 23:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Still, isn't this more of an AFD? And please be more careful than to put messages my userpage, please. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 23:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

asserting for A7

Any plausible assertion is enough to pass speedy. for Frank Ritter, he is asserted to have published widely;perhaps not widely enough to pass the bar for actual notability, but that has to be tested at PROD or AFD. For Email limited, another admin thought that asserting significant international business operations was sufficient to pass speedy, & I agree; a third admin though Scandinavian Bunkering also asserting some notability a global provider of oil for industry, and again I agree; might possibly be, 72nd largest Swedish company. Please don;t overuse speedy. All of these were clear assertions. DGG (talk) 15:23, 14 October 2007 (UTC) You may still not have it right, per WP:CSD, ANY assertion is enough. Asserting an impt. role in anything at all is sufficient to pass speedy--there is a difference between speedy and afd. If you think the assertion is insufficient, use afd or prod. If 72nd in Sweden isnt enough, afd is the place to say so & test it. DGG (talk) 15:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar

It's good to know that there are folks out there who appreciate the gadflies amongst us! I appreciated the support at that VERY WP:LAME AnI. Regards,K. Scott Bailey 01:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you willing to try to explain yourself more fully?

I saw you comment on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Defense Department list of terrorist organizations other than the Taliban or al Qaeda. But I don't understand it.

I'd really appreciate it if you could explain your comment.

Could you explain what a "blp accident" is? Could you explain why the possibility of a "blp accident" is ground for deletion?

Every article is open to a vandal coming along and adding "Joe Blow is a big baby", or reasonable equivalent. I've reverted dozens of instances when a vandal has done this one of the articles on my watchlist.

Every article about a person is open to a more clever vandal inserting unsubstantiated vandalism -- vandalism that isn't obviously vandalism. I've reverted my share of those kinds of vandalism too.

So, why should the possibility of a "blp accident", whatever that is, represent any more of a problem than the possibility a clever vandal might do their work on an article?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers! Geo Swan 00:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Could you please explain more fully?

I saw you chose to blank Defense Department list of terrorist organizations other than the Taliban or al Qaeda.

I saw you called on the authority of WP:BOLD for this action.

Maybe I am missing something, but I always thought WP:BOLD was intended to encourage newbies to take their first steps in contributing to the wikipedia -- not to encourage experienced wikipedians to ignore consensus or wikipolicies?

So, what am I missing? Geo Swan 00:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I saw your most recent reply on my talk page. Thanks for the effort that you put into that reply.

No, sorry, your explanation isn't really helpful. I can only guess what you mean when you say "...what you seem to be missing is a wider, less parochial perspective."

If what you mean is that you think I am insensitive to the captive's situation, you couldn't be more wrong. The wikipedia's rules are clear. My personal feelings about the captive's situation should not colour my contributions. I get a limited amount of criticism that my contributions are tainted with a biased POV -- about equally split between those who regard me as too "pro-Bush" policy and those who regard me "anti-American". I have contributed over 15,000 edits related to the war on terror.

As I pointed out to User:Lawrence Cohen, the wikipedia aims for "verifiability, not truth" Truth is a very subjective metric. As is, IMO, "notability". Verifiability is a metric that is much less open to interpretation.

IMO Lawrence has been completely unable to cite specific policy passages that back up his assertion that using these DoD allegations violates any policies. If you agree with him so strongly are you able to cite the specific passages to back up this interpretation?

FWIW the DoD battled, for years, to suppress the same information you and Lawrence want to suppress. And they used a very similar justification. They said they were withholding the information in order to protect the captive's privacy. US District Court judge Jed Rakoff over-ruled the DoD and issued a court order that they had to reveal the captives's identity, and the transcripts from their Tribunals by 6pm March 3rd, 2006.

I've read well over half of the 12,000 or so pages of documents the DoD has released over the last 18 months. I am in absolutley no doubt that every increase in open-ness and transparency about the captive's condition, the nature of the interrogations, the nature of their Tribunals, the nature of the allegations against them, has been in their interests.

There are a small number of the lawyers who volunteered to aid the captives in their habeas corpus who traveled all the way to Afghanistan, to interview their clients' families and neighbours. This was extremely dangerous. And my hat is off to them.

In every case those lawyers got emails form the DoD telling them that their clients had been quietly released. Is this a sign that the DoD knows they can't possibily justify detaining many/most of the captives? That is the kind of personal interpretation that can't be allowed to influence what gets put into any articles. But presenting the uninterpreted information, which is what I think I did in this article, is, I believe, completely in compliance with all policies.

It seemed to me that Lawrence was initially justifying his objection out of a true concern for the captive's welfare. When I wrote to him, as I have written to you, as if he and I both shared a concern for the captive's welfare, he came clean, and stated he thought the DoD was doing a good job. Pretty shocking.

I read all the justifications you offered last night. And I continue to wonder which exact policy clauses you are calling upon.

I hope you will do me the courtesy of either explaining your reasoning more fully, or explaining what aspect of my reasoning you have found unconvincing.

Yours for a civil wikipedia Geo Swan 15:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages and harassment

It is longstanding policy that bothering someone on their talk page after being asked to stop constitutes harassment. Abusers are routinely blocked. Georgewilliamherbert 01:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking up for me

I appreciated the support. It's difficult to fight admins who can simply freeze your userpage, block you, and then freeze your talkpage when you try to stand up for yourself. I will never understand the need some people feel to police people's userpages, edit summaries, and other such trivialities. It contributes nothing to the project, and is in fact, highly counterproductive, as it distracts (and even blocks in pathetic cases like today) good editors from their work. Thank you again for supporting me, when you certainly did not have to do so.K. Scott Bailey 02:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind taking a look at an article I created?

I would appreciate it if you would take a look at the article I just wrote regarding Tom Dula. It's not too long, so if you get a chance to take a peek at it, I'd really appreciate it. Regards, K. Scott Bailey 03:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course I don't mind! That's why I asked you to take a look: I knew it needed some help. Thanks for the work you did on it! K. Scott Bailey 01:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks again

thanks for the info box on marci's page Marci Bowers Helper 20:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hamsters

Hi mate, hope you don't mind I have added a bit to the Hamsters WP entry about the drummer singing back up and the MB&D tour - maybe it waffles a bit about their ribbing each other about the singles... Great work on a great band mate! Don't let the doubters put you off. I have seen The Hamsters loads of time and wish I had picked up on them earlier in their career. One of the best bands on the planet me and my mates think... my kids like them too! PS I wonder if we could include something about Slim's guitars? Royzee 07:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Pankhurst Centre

Thanks for taking those photographs. I have provisionally put Image:Pankhurst Centre 1.jpg on the main page but will leave a note on the talk page to see if anyone else has an opinion. Pit-yacker 22:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Marc Ramsbottom

There seems to be a certain user who keeps on reverting edits made to Marc Ramsbottom and removing controversies. A lock is needed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.200.220 (talk) 23:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Award!

		The WikiProject Greater Manchester Award of Merit
		I hereby award you the very first Greater Manchester WikiProject Barnstar of Merit, for your majestic, effortless and and otherwise outstanding contributions to the WikiProject, including mainpage and ad design! May it be the first of many such awards! Keep it up! Jza84 23:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit Conflict

Hi WebHamster:

Thanks. I think maybe there are timing issues with the servers. I'm guessing the history and the actual pages are on different servers.

No harm done.

Cheers, Wanderer57 02:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

Hi WebHamster, How do you make a template? please reply Point93 19:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Template

I've responded to the template you left me. To save time, I'll copy my response here as well:

Um, I didn't create that article myself. Please look a little more closely at the article's history, and then at the CSD template itself, which says " you intend to fix it, please remove this notice". I intend to fix the article, I removed the notice. --Darkwind (talk) 01:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, WP:TEMPLAR. Thanks. --Darkwind (talk) 01:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Home (Nightclub)

I removed the speedy-delete tag from this article because I think it's made several assertions of notability. If you still decide to request deletion, I'd suggest you PROD it. Joyous! | Talk 00:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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