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Allegations of Chinese apartheid AfD

Following your recent participation in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid, you may be interested to know that a related article, Allegations of Chinese apartheid, is currently being discussed on AfD. Comments can be left at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid. -- ChrisO 16:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Panama City

Hello, I've noticed that you have correctly moved the Panamá City, Panamá page to the correct name in English "Panama City, Panama". I agree with you, since it is necessary to be consistent with the English pronunciation of the name in the English Misplaced Pages. However, certain users have moved it back without any discussions. I've tried to move it again, but I can not. How did you manage to move the page?--Schonbrunn 00:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

The target page has a history, so it can't have other pages moved there without first preserving the page's history -- which requires administrator help. Since Duja's an administrator, he could do the move, however you'll have to find another to help you with any future move(s). You can check at WP:RM, but I doubt that'll work, since there's obviously some sort of lack of consensus for the non-accented title, though I don't understand why, for the reasons you already mentioned. Look around some and see what you can do about consensus so it can be fixed. -Bbik 01:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Ostrovica fortress?

Seems I have good timing, welcome back! Have a good vacation?

I'm (finally) doing a bit more filling in of history gaps for Smederevo fortress, and there are at least a few mentions of simultaneous seiges at Smederevo and a fortress at Ostrovica (I presume Ostrovica, Serbia?) or Omol/Omolridon. The issue is, I can find nothing mentioning a fortress ever being there (aside from the sources I already have), and since it the first seems to be close to Niš, I'm wondering what the chances are the two locations could've been confused, though that seems unlikely in published works. Are the two places next to each other, and the fortress in Niš right over the border from Ostrovica, perhaps? Or were one of the other Ostrovicas part of Serbia around the 1450s, and likely places for fortresses/attacks? Where is Omol(ridon) in the first place, is it near Niš too? -Bbik 03:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, later; that handful of contribs was just a mini wikibreak-break. I'm still on holidays; actually, tomorrow I go to the real vacation :-); see you after September 3. Duja► 12:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, and a brief research: the fortress in question (fell to Turks 1523) seems to be in today's Croatia: see hr:Lišane Ostrovičke and . sr:Spisak tvrđava u Srbiji mentions another Ostrovica fortress, but it's little known and located on mountain of Rudnik near Gornji Milanovac. The Ostrovica (Niška Banja) (I just moved the page) doesn't seem to have anything with it. Can't find anything about Omolridon; Omol seems to be a cognate with modern Serbian Homolje, a mountainous area east of Požarevac; or perhaps something to do with Omoljica near Pančevo? History of Pancevo mentions a city named "Pančal" near today's Omoljica, mentioned in Matija Talovac's letter in 1430, and Bertrand de la Broquier's (spelling?) chronicles from 1433. Sorry if this gives more questions than answers :-D. Duja► 12:28, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, I think you're going to have to go back in time and tell your countrymen and the various conquerors to stop changing place names (and to use different names for each place?) and to keep better track of where they're fighting, it'd make things so much easier! :-p In any case, thanks for the attempt, I guess I'll just leave it vague for now. Have fun down in Greece! :) (And beware the likely major drop in my language abilities when you get back -- I'll be doing my own "travelling" by then and completely confusing accented German for English for bits of French (and now maybe Serbian?)... Think the last three days is last minute enough to start packing?) -Bbik 14:03, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Loznica coat of arms.gif)

Thanks for uploading Image:Loznica coat of arms.gif. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Misplaced Pages under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Misplaced Pages. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Misplaced Pages (see our policy for non-free media).

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Hahahihihoho

Special:Contributions/Visca_el_barca

I'm told this appears to be him (again). --PaxEquilibrium 20:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Revert War

Hello Duja, welcome back. I'm currently involved in a revert war on Saborsko massacre. The Misplaced Pages rules have not been violated as such, it's been going on for a week or so. I did suggest involving non-Balkan admins, and I intend to - but do me a kind favour if you can; as you know better than both User:Kubura and I do, exactly how an article should be presented. If you get time, look at the changes made since I made a big edit some time back. My only purpose was to rid it of its POVs; political event articles are full of them. The biggest issue is regarding the ICTY: Kubura wants (it was a plan to destroy); and I want (the ICTY found/stated/reported that it was a plan to destroy). Not much more really. If you keep good contact with a Craoatian admin, please come in together - it would help. I am prepared to negotiate; I am all eyes and ears for reading new information, and as God is my witness, I only wish to make positive and truthful contributions. Thanks. Evlekis 12:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

List of Serbian films

Hey know of any films to add to the List of Serbian films. I'm trying to add some films into the tables with details of the director etc. If you could help it this would be great ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ 10:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

How about sr:Spisak srpskih filmova? It's not referenced, but looks reasonably comprehensive. Some IMDB searches and googling should fill the gaps. I can help with translations and searches of the films with common-word titles. Duja► 06:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Darkwood Dub.jpg)

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New Version Of Reply On Pripyat, Ukraine Talk Page, Please See...

I have added more important information on the Russian alphabet, as well as the Cyrillic pronunciation to prove that it is correctly pronounced, "Preepyat'", or more commonly, "Pripyat", in English. Please see and report on my talk page. Thanks, G'Night, -- Steven Suttles Stone 02:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Notability?

Hey Duja, welcome back! A quick question for you, before I head off myself. Is this guy notable/verifiable enough? It seems like he should be, but certainly not in English. Are there any reliable Serbian sources for the claims made in the article? -Bbik 12:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Barely. I already did stumble to that AfD in the regular process of wikistalking you :-), but didn't feel inclined to comment. I can't find anything substantial or reliable apart from the source already linked in the article; looks like just another wannabe singer, who is distinguished only by having won the "Zvezde Granda" competition and recorded an album therefore. However, he seems mostly forgotten since. I wouldn't lose much sleep if the article gets deleted. Duja► 12:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, ok :). Not that I would've (or even have the luxury!) to lose sleep over such minor things, but at least now I've covered all the bases, so can quite contendedly let things take their course. Guess that means it's packing time. I'm finally heading east to see what's over in your part of the world! Any must-try foods? That'll probably easier to deal with than must-see places, with the limited time I have. -Bbik 14:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Which part of the world exactly? You mentioned a trip to Germany if I remember correctly... and I'm generally not too fond of German food, at least few things I tried. Heck, even in Minnesota we spent most of the time in Turkish, Chinese, Mexican and Bosnian restaurants. Duja► 14:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, there was going to be a year of school in Germany, but it kind of turned into a semester in Austria and next semester in the Czech Republic. We have a post-orientation, pre-semester break now, though, so decided to head east with a friend. Seems I'm going to be checking out "Russian food" (whatever that includes) with my friend's friend in Moldova, then detouring through Romania (Bucharest) and Serbia (Belgrade) on the way back, if only for a couple days. Shame I don't have time to go check out these fortresses I wrote about. So... your specific part of the world. (Though, some nice spicy Mexican sounds really good right about now. There's that much variety in Minnesota? I really need to start checking out my own country some one of these days.) -Bbik 14:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

tweaking Mountain Infobox

Hi, Duja. Could I ask you to not tweak the mountain infobox until discussion has settled at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Mountains? (Or, at least let the discussants know that you are tweaking the infobox in response to their comments, so that people aren't confused). Feel free to join the discussion. Thanks! hike395 12:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Will do. Duja► 12:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism and abuse of admin right

I'd like to warn you that you vandalized Sajmiste Concentration Cam several times by baselessly reverting my changes and moreover removing the explanation on the talkpage justifying the changes. Please, remove the semi-protection of this article and restrain from false accusations and apparent vandalism.--4.249.0.41 21:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Bitterside

Thanks for your contibution!
JEPAAB 11:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

US mobile phone companies move

Just a note to say thanks for taking care of this! --Squiggleslash 12:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, that's my job! No need to thanks, I earn huge buck$$$ for it :-). Duja► 12:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Iron maiden

Despite your closing comment on this requested move, Reginmund has three times reverted this redirect so that it points to Iron maiden (torture device) rather than Iron Maiden. I'm looking for some clarification on this matter in hope that another LAME edit war can be averted. Cheers! PC78 23:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

D'oh. What a WP:LAME. I'll seek for assistance on WP:ANI, and I asked for policy clarification at Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (precision). In any way, edit warring is not a way to do it. Thanks for pointing this out. Duja► 07:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Duja! And apologies for dragging you into something which really isn't your problem. I appreciate you looking into this. PC78 11:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Post-WWII Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe

Dear Duja,

Could you please restore old version of article Post-WWII Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe, at least in my user space, so I could work with it? This article was very different from current version of Soviet occupation. Right now it is inaccessible. Thank you.Biophys 02:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I would, but User:Richardshusr already moved it to his userspace, and the history is there. I've restored User:Richardshusr/Post-WWII Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe to the last valid version. As he doesn't own it, you can work on that copy along with him—it would certainly be nice let him know about it. Duja► 06:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Per this edit, I'm fine with Biophys either moving the article into his userspace or just editing it in mine. The only thing to avoid is making two copies and editing both of them thus creating a mess which has to be merged back together.

--Richard 07:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

TLA

Thanks - sorry I was overcautious and put it in the wrong category of move request! PamD 13:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Urban Learning Technology

Why did you delete the article I posted regarding ULT. I was building that with a friend and he was about to add all references and other information. Please tell me why you deleted it before we could even expand on it???

-Leshell --Leshell 17:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

On 24 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marijan Beneš, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3  00:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Page move

Thanks for moving IBM zSeries to IBM System z. The talk page is still at its old location at Talk:IBM zSeries instead of Talk:IBM System z. Could you move it too? Foobaz·o< 20:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out, missed it. Duja► 06:55, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

HAR move

Re: Huot Automatic Rifle. Like the M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle, I think it should be capitalized, and the existing article redirected to the new article placement. The weapon should be known by its proper name, like the BAR, I think that common practice capitalizes the name. In discussion, several firearm experts have found that Ross participated in the development of the Huot Automatic Rifle, AND some type of light machine gun, though not necessarily with Huot. There is a discussion at theRoss rifle talk page regarding this. Now we have two titles that say the same thing, but concern different topics. User:Kalashnikov seems to be the best informed on this topic compared to any other editor or admin with whom I've discussed this. We can't have a "Huot LMG" page and a HAR page that describe two separate things as though they are related or the same thing. Again, I'd refer to Kalashnikov.TeamZissou 19:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

User:75.132.95.79 aka User:A B Pepper

Hi Duja, I see you've encountered User:75.132.95.79. As you probably saw from their talk page they were soapboxing and edit warring at Christian views about women and at Talk:Christian feminism. THis user has an account, the same soap-boxing and the same type of pov-push is continuing on Christian views about women. I made a post with detailed diffs to Seraphimblade here but he's not looked into it yet.

A B Pepper is the same user as Ip 75.132.95.79 and is carrying with similar behaviour on other articles. I have had to warn A B Pepper with a level 4 for soapboxing at Talk:Southern Baptist Convention ; should an checkuser be opened to establish that A_B_Pepper is sock-puppeting?--20:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

His attacks are getting pretty severe . Sχeptomaniac 17:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Duja. This "macho man" (a self-description) appears to be mentally and emotionally unstable. After his latest curse or hex he says he put on me (User_talk:Afaprof01 under "You are no Deborah," I think he has gone off the deep end. This is the most serious disruptive uncivil behavior I have ever seen on Wiki. His arrogance knows no bounds. Several have tried to reason with him, and he summarily rejects their efforts. He is so badly frustrating the efforts of good editors, and damaging many articles with his edits, that we may lose valuable contributors. I don't think any of us are willing to go on subjecting ourself to his kind of personal attack and craziness. We need Admin help, please! Thanks Afaprof01 18:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Durova took care about it, apparently, and he declared departure. Sorry that I didn't react yesterday; frankly, I investigated a bit his contributions, but couldnt' make heads and tails of it. Duja► 06:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

YAF

Check out Talk:Yugoslav Army in the Fatherland. --PaxEquilibrium 22:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Your opinion

Hello! I've noticed your productive involvement with ethnic groups and categorization before. If you have time, would you mind offering any suggestions you might have at Misplaced Pages talk:German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board#Categories, concerning possible changes to Category:German people by state? Olessi 13:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Republika Srpska

Great work with the {{Infobox Country}} fix!  — MapsMan  — 21:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Galileo CRS

Thank you for keeping the article. I've added a history section. It's a start. Many may not know the significance and discussion during the 1980's that led to the creation of Amadeus, Worldspan, and Galileo. Archtransit 15:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

House of Karageorgevich

Please show that Karađorđević is the majority English usage before reverting edits in good faith that were checked before being done. This is English, not Serbian, Misplaced Pages. Charles 16:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

How about that you show that Karageorgevich is, instead? Articles have talk pages, you know. Misplaced Pages:Bold, revert, discuss is right behind the corner, and I see that you're performing only the second step of it. Duja► 06:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Miroljub Jevtic

Hi,

For this article we would need categories. I am from the German and Serbian Misplaced Pages, so I can help only restricted. All the best -- Carski 10:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Polish gminas and bot

Hi, Thanks for your comments on the Polish gminas issue; as you say, we'll have to agree to disagree. As far as the bot is concerned, of course I'll let you have the source code, though at the moment it still needs some debugging and a lot of tidying up (I hope to give it a trial run in the next few weeks). There is some source code at User:Kotbot, but that covers only the very last stage of the process (putting the generated articles onto WP). The difficult bit is retrieving the information from the source WP (and checking its integrity as much as possible). In the Polish case, this is proving very time consuming, because the original Polish articles do not all follow the same format. However if all the information you want is in absolutely standard form (as Infobox fields, for example), then it should be quite easy to automatise. Oh, I see you're a programmer, so you'll be able to do this much more professionally than me;)--Kotniski 09:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I moved the gmina articles as requested, and left a notice at Talk:Gmina Abramów. Please also take a look at Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox Gmina, as I suppose it will be deprecated by the Geobox.

As for the future use I requested, I have the basic information (name, population, municipality) in an Access database, and I can create text dumps as I want. Only if I could import some coordinate data from somewhere... Duja► 13:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the moves!! Luckily the coordinate data for many Polish towns and villages already exists in Polish WP, so I am able to import it from there. I'm discovering quite a lot of mistakes along the way, though, like villages with coordinates which would lie in totally different regions (correcting these is one of the things that makes the process so time-consuming). Trying to import the former German names is fun, too.--Kotniski 13:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

TLA vs TLA (disambiguation)

I'm confused. You seem to have killed the history of TLA (disambiguation). Why? Pdfpdf 15:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Nope, when a page is moved the history goes with it as well. The hisory is at the TLA page. Duja► 06:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

So does the TLA (disambiguation) history get merged into the TLA history, or does it replace the TLA history? If it replaces it: You seem to have killed the history of TLA. Why? Pdfpdf 09:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Aha. By default, it replaces the old history, but I can merge them as an administrator. I always take a look at history when I do the obstructed moves, and don't do the merging if everything that was there was only messing with redirects (merging tends to scramble browsing through edit histories). Now, on a closer look, there is an edit of yours which wasn't a redirect, but it looks identical to this one. In sum, it's difficult to analyse what was a copy/paste and what was a "proper" contribution. I can restore it if you want, but why is it so important? The diff I provided above seems to be it. For your info, the deleted history is:

• 14:20, 19 September 2007 . . Pdfpdf (Talk | contribs | block) (34 bytes) (←Redirected page to TLA (disambiguation))
• 12:43, 19 September 2007 . . Pdfpdf (Talk | contribs | block) (1,177 bytes) (Make this the disambiguation page for TLA)
• 11:46, 19 September 2007 . . PamD (Talk | contribs | block) (34 bytes) (part of rearrangement, temp move)
• 19:36, 10 September 2007 . . Dark Shikari (Talk | contribs | block) (39 bytes) (fixing double redirect)
• 02:26, 6 September 2007 . . Circeus (Talk | contribs | block) (34 bytes) (rv to original redirect)
• 15:53, 3 September 2007 . . Wafulz (Talk | contribs | block) (36 bytes) (double redirect)
• 17:00, 16 June 2007 . . Goldfritter (Talk | contribs | block) (39 bytes) (fixing double redir)
• 03:37, 2 August 2006 . . Daniel Olsen (Talk | contribs | block) (Redirecting to Three-letter acronym)
• 21:06, 23 June 2006 . . Adambiswanger1 (Talk | contribs | block) (TLA shouldn't be the primary page)
• 12:14, 5 April 2006 . . Off! (Talk | contribs | block) (moved TLA to Three-letter acronym)

Duja► 09:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Except for the next-to-last diff, everything else was changing of redirect. Duja► 09:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

but I can merge them as an administrator - Now that would have to be the first (and so far only) advantage I have seen of being an Administrator! And yes, that was a very poor attempt at humour. ;-) Pdfpdf

Oh, no, you can also delete pages and block naugthy users, which provides a god-like feeling.

Lol! Well, we all have to have some god-like feelings every now and then ...

In turn, you can get harrassed by discontent cranks either online or in real life, if you're stupid to make your real-life identity available, like me :-) Duja► 13:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the sort of thing that that causes me to want to avoid being an admin!!

I can restore it if you want, but why is it so important? - I don't know that it is important! ("don't know" is the most significant part of that sentence.) It's just that I was very careful not to disturb edit histories, because I thought that doing so was "unacceptable behaviour". You came along and, with your administrator rights, stomped on them. I don't know if they were important; I assumed that people did what they did for reasons that were important to them, and didn't think it was my right to stomp on it. To be honest, I don't really care - I was just trying to be a "good and considerate citizen", and assumed that an administrator would be an "even better and even more considerate citizen". (P.S. I'm not asking you to restore it.)
For your info ... - Thanks. No, there doesn't seem to be anything important, significant (or even useful!) there, does there. (?)

So thanks for the info. To recap:

• My question was: "Why?".
• I think your answer was: "Because it didn't remove any significant/useful information." (Did I get that right? If so: "OK, that makes sense.")

However, why do anything at all? Wasn't it OK as it was? Why actually do something, (rather than nothing), when it appears that it wasn't necessary to do anything? (Not an earth-shatteringly-important question, but I am a bit puzzled.) Regards, Pdfpdf 12:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, why, albeit succinct, was a terribly broad question

True

—I should probably have asked "do you want a long or a short answer" :-). Since you again ask another "why", I'll try to be reasonably succinct:

• Someone asked to move TLA (disambiguation) to TLA for stylistic reasons outlined in Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation#Page_naming_conventions (page Foo shouldn't redirect to Foo (disambiguation)) and I complied
• However, a page A cannot be moved over page B if the latter has non-trivial edit history
• Therefore, page B must be deleted before the move
• Optionally, edit histories of A and B may be merged to preserve contributor list, as required by GFDL, which I didn't do in this case Duja► 13:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. (And yes, you were succinct.) Thanks, Pdfpdf 14:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Check out this guy 212.214.205.154. Paulcicero 21:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Language Ref Desk help...

...on my recent query there. The discussion on the WordReference forum is indeed interesting, if not definitive; I'm always heartened to see others pondering questions similar to my own. Having no knowledge of Russian myself, I'm unable to glean anything from the Russian Misplaced Pages page on Zionism that might illuminate the whether the Russian word "Zion" is ever a descriptor for identified Jews (by ethnicity rather than religion), or always refers to the Zionist agenda. Looks like I'll have to do some further thinking and post a re-worded query. --Thanks, Deborahjay 12:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Serb clans

I understand what you tried to do and agree that it's a bit more NPOV that way - but it's also more incorrect. While the previous name of the article relied (by the greatest part) on historical interpretation, the current one lacks basis for it. Any idea for a solution? --PaxEquilibrium 10:28, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

"Lacks the basis on historical interpretation"? Those are clans located in Montenegro, and the current title plainly says so. See the Google scholar results for pleme Montenegro. As has been repeatedly complained on the talk page, the title "Serb clans" creates a false impression that a) the clans are universal characteristic of Serbs (whereas they're obviously not) and that b) the clans have something to do with Serbdom, where in fact the focus should be on anthropologist research. Duja► 10:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

No. It also includes eastern Herzegovina, and a part of Serbia - as well as both historically and currently northern Albania and Metohija. "of Montenegro" would make it seem like it's typical for Montenegro - while the "Old Montenegrin clans" are in reality the only Montenegrin clans - the term expanded with the expansion of the Montenegrin state in the 19th century to include the neighbouring Serb tribes, but not including all, which is the cause of extinction or plain disappearance of many clans, e.g. in eastern Herzegovina. Most of these clands anyway do not come from Montenegro (proper), but e.g. Kosovo (Metohija included) or Herzegovina. --PaxEquilibrium 11:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What I see on the map in the article is almost entirely in Montenegro. AFAIK modern Montenegro encompasses what once was known as "eastern Herzegovina" or "old Herzegovina", and Drobnjaci, Piva and Grahovo are in modern Montenegro. Montenegro is referred to throughout the article. Why is that inadequate? Duja► 12:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Partially modern-day Republika Srpska too - and you forget that this article is a historical article, rotating around history. The clans today in Montenegro play quite a different part of the society - many e.g. are extinct while the article doesn't even include several. The problem is that the excerpt has been taken from the 19th century studies of Jovan Erdeljanovic, and copied Vuk Stefanovic Karadzic - who recorded "Serb clans not near extinction". It's all a lot fishy. --PaxEquilibrium 20:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Especially the problem arises when the fact that most of the members of the clans (both historically and in the present sense) do not live in modern-day Montenegro. And in the historical interpretation, on which the whole article relies, corresponded to the previous name - with the case of Nikola Tesla, it's hardly to be called a Clan in Montenegro - which most became only in the second half of the 19th century. --PaxEquilibrium 19:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and for end point - majority of the people tied to clans are/were Serbs or pro-Serbian. National Councils of all clans were relieved years ago in Montenegro. 78% of the clan parliaments supported a common state with Serbia, a "Council of National Assemblies" was formed that was a component part of Zoran Zizic's "Movement for European State Serbia and Montenegro". It also supported the Serb List in the subsequent 2006 parliamentary election, with some of its prominent members joining the actual political alliance. Today it's disbanded. In general, clans still have a sort of important impact in Montenegro - but clan life is a characteristic of the pro-Serbs. On the "other side" it's even presented as such - an instance is the Vice-President of the Liberal Party who (I remember) spat on clans, repulsively referring to them as a "Serb thing". --PaxEquilibrium 21:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Burma-Myanmar

Dear friend, you made a real mistake when you switched Mynamar to Burma: you played into the hands of Anglo-American biggots who have no regard for neutrality or objectivity. "English Misplaced Pages means it must be British" - that attitude. No different to Chetniks and Ustashe being trusted to write articles about our very own ugly chapter a few years back. Evlekis 19:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

An admin's job is to evaluate the community's consensus, not to supersede it with his own opinion. Frankly, I didn't see much of the "cultural imperialism" you allude to in that discussion; if anything, a good portion of resentment towards the name of Myanmar was due to perception that it was imposed by the military junta, rather than a rightful choice by the people of the country. The fact is that both names are in use in English-speaking countries, and that was what mattered in the case at hand. Duja► 06:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Community consensus may not be necessarily correct. WP:CSB In the same manner, just because the western media is not too aware of the name changes in Asian countries, continue to refer to them. For instance there was a big debate over Kolkata-Calcutta. "Consensus" for retaining Calcutta was mostly from the western hemisphere while Kolkata was more rounded. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The Morning Post

Good job Moving the page. However, its Talk npage is still named "Talk:Morning Post." Cheers. --Ludvikus 15:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Anybody who coulld help with WW2 history?

Duja, could you help (or recommend somebody who could help) with some decent knowledgeable approach to Yugoslavian WW2 history? We have this dreadful National Liberation War of Macedonia, which has degenerated into a Macedonian-Bulgarian ethnic feud. I know virtually nothing about it, and I can't read most of the sources. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I can help, I speak a little Macedonian and am pretty knowledgable in WW2 Yugoslav history, could you explain the issues? DIREKTOR 19:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The article was created by a Macedonian user, (currently banned) User:Frightner, apparently with a nationally motivated POV tending to present the activities of the Macedonian partisans as a liberation Movement aimed at a distinct Macedonian national ideal, particularly against Bulgarian domination. Then a bunch of Bulgarian users jumped on the article and pulled it in a direction exonorating the Bulgarian side and stressing how the Macedonian population really wanted to be Bulgarian and how evil the Serbs were in contrast. Well, I'm exaggerating a bit, but that's the POV background. The whole article is heavily POV and OR, based on cheap nationalist websites and similar junk. It's been in a state of continual edit-war for a few months and really should be rewritten from scratch, or maybe even better merged somewhere else. (But just that has been one of the hottest contentious issues.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, I know precious little about it; even in the basic school during the socialist era, all we were taught about WWII on the Macedonian territory was that they uprised against occupiers on Oct 11 1941, 4 months later than the others. And I made some results at "Tito's paths of revolution" contents back in 1st-4th grade :-)). Duja► 06:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, its an obscure part of an obscure part of history, and the whole thing is so, well, messed up, I wish you could just erase the whole thing and start over... DIREKTOR 08:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

French fried potatoes

Hello, thank you for undoing this move. Can you please move the talk page to match the article? Thanks and regards. --Muchness 17:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Solar power/Solar energy

Your heavy handed moving of solar power to solar energy just because you are an admin and just because it may seem reasonable to you, with no respect for the on going discussion is not appreciated. In penance I demand that you either move it back or personally fix a minimum of 50 of the 600 redirects that you have personally created by making the move. If you do not move it back, please click on the above link to solar power, click on the redirect page, click on what links here, and get started. Don't worry about user pages and talk pages. Here is a short cut to get there for you. 199.125.109.27 18:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)