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| == Wednesday, January 15, 2025 Minnesota User Group Meeting and 2025 Misplaced Pages Day Celebration == | |||
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| You posted an invite on my talk page to the 2022 Greater Minnesota History Misplaced Pages Edit-a-Thons. I will belatedly thank you for that. I have no clue as to how you came to include me in the invitations as I am not a member of any Minnesota Project. I do belong to the Military History Project. I very much intended to to make Mankato, but life foiled that. Staff from a St Paul library met you and informed me that you feel too many want to edit the Dakota war which is what I am requesting your NPOV on. I received a request from the Minnesota History Project to review the Dakota War article. I did and responded it was in need of a complete rewrite. The existing article lacks balance, neutrality, content, and basic format. I did a rewrite that I posted only to have it reverted immediately. It was not reverted for pov, ci, accuracy, or vandalism. The revert was for "too much at one time". From that I learned the article has two primary editors. It is my opinion that both have NPOV issues and one has taken ownership of the article. The upside to that revert was I continued to work on the balance of the rewrite in my new sandbox. I have reached the point where I would like a outside input. It is large, however a review of other "war" articles shows that they all are way over the Wiki preferred standard. Thank you for your time and thoughts.] (]) 18:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)mcb133aco] (]) 18:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :He was correct. In the Greater Minnesota History Misplaced Pages Edit-a-Thons, I did request that folks not take on the Dakota War. :-) | |||
| :The people I was presenting were all new to Misplaced Pages. As I described it, "Stay in the shallow end of the pool." As your experience can testify to, some topics not only have enough editors wanting to contribute but the topic is very divisive. For the same reason I encouraged them to stay away from articles about live people as well - and to a lesser extent even dead ones. Doing local history on Misplaced Pages is incredibly tricky because of the "notability" issue and what constitutes reliable sources. For those reasons I strongly encouraged them to start editing existing articles on their communities, cities, townships, and counties. In most cases, most have no history section at all, and those who do have information that is not cited. There is so much to do, however, while not as sexy as a battle they are nonetheless important as well to get good complete histories on. | |||
| :While is important to have a good article on the Dakota war, I think that type of article is the deep end of the pool and folks need to understand what they are getting themselves into and how to civilly handle themselves (even when others are not). Achieving an NPOV is a great goal and one that folks should always work towards, even if it is not possible in some cases. The Dakota War may be one of those. It may only be possible to represent perspectives. | |||
| :Looking at the comments made on your talk page about the changes, they do have a point. A minor point, but a point. The changes are extensive and significate. Even if it is better and properly cited. Misplaced Pages's guidelines do put the pressure on you to prove and get consensus if challenged. | |||
| :Doing such a large edit on a controversial page is very risk. It risks, as you discovered, the whole thing being removed if only if there is issues with some of the edits. No one wants sit and try to figure out all that is different then make corrections and arguments. You took a risk and it didn't work. thats okay. I would go back and suggest smaller chunks that can be worked on. Some of your edits will not make it in. Others will make it in. Be okay with that. From what I can see you have done some very good work but be okay if not everyone agrees with all of it or how it is phrased. ] (]) 01:25, 9 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you for your time and thoughts. I have this novel perspective that History is a set of facts and we have a dictionary that provides the proper terminology to describe them. For non-English terms or terms of a minority POV there are footnotes and Misplaced Pages provides the talk-page for balance. Editing based upon personal opinion and consensus is un-encyclopedic for documented history. The existing article has a poor lead for an Encyclopedia article. It fails to introduce a chronology that leads to a summation of the hostilities. The body lacks balance, substance, neutrality, and precision. Presentism is given undue weight that is not properly identified or discussed citing biased sources. Also thank you very much for the "very good work" comment.] (]) 19:18, 10 February 2023 (UTC)mcb133aco] (]) 19:18, 10 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::Do you know someone of Ojibwa heritage at MHS that would have an interest in the history I have found? I have over 60 newspaper articles 1862-65 that I can share. They are listed at the Library of Congress, Newspapers.com, and the MHS Mediahub] (]) 21:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)mcb133aco] (]) 21:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| I'll be attending the Toronto Misplaced Pages Day meetup this coming weekend, and we are noticing a LOT of newly created accounts signing up for this. I see that the signup list for the Minnesota event similarly had a lot of new accounts signed up. Did many of them come? Just trying to gauge whether we should make a point of focusing on new editor stuff, or whether there was something of a prank happening here. ] (]) 02:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :It's not a prank, we've been using the ] banner, in this case coordinated with Wikimedia Canada. A similar thing was done for last year's events. Expect some but obviously not all of the newbies to attend, and Happy Misplaced Pages Day! ] (]) 15:30, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :* My goodness! It serves me right for going into semi-Wikiretirement. I missed the event by a hair! I hope it was well attended and happy Misplaced Pages Day! -- ] (]) 01:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Wednesday, January 15, 2025 Minnesota User Group Meeting and 2025 Misplaced Pages Day Celebration
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- I have clarified the reason why the file qualifies for non-free use in the Purpose section of the Summary. I have also added to Library system section to better tie to the graphic.
- It far better illustrates the section than the previous glamour shot of the Boston Public Library's reading room while a free file, had nothing to do with topic. Myotus (talk) 22:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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Query about Minnesota Misplaced Pages Day meetup
I'll be attending the Toronto Misplaced Pages Day meetup this coming weekend, and we are noticing a LOT of newly created accounts signing up for this. I see that the signup list for the Minnesota event similarly had a lot of new accounts signed up. Did many of them come? Just trying to gauge whether we should make a point of focusing on new editor stuff, or whether there was something of a prank happening here. Risker (talk) 02:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's not a prank, we've been using the m:CentralNotice banner, in this case coordinated with Wikimedia Canada. A similar thing was done for last year's events. Expect some but obviously not all of the newbies to attend, and Happy Misplaced Pages Day! Pharos (talk) 15:30, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- My goodness! It serves me right for going into semi-Wikiretirement. I missed the event by a hair! I hope it was well attended and happy Misplaced Pages Day! -- Dolotta (talk) 01:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)